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Old 11th Nov 2022, 23:27
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Should have been removed by crew as part of pre flight.. Loganair require a tech log entry to say prop straps are fitted. Crew can remove and sign. We have already been told about it. The penetrating item is the securing pip pin that holds the prop strop to the nacelle. Throw off the strop spinning at 1000 RPM .
Not required on Australian SAABs, the prop strap on the left side also holds the stair blocking strap. In all SAAB operations I've been involved with the FO supervised boarding, did the final walk around and then ensured the stair block/prop strap was carried into the cockpit. Never had a prop strap left on in that situation as it's connected to the stairs and it is very obvious. I have heard of Right prop straps being left on during first flight starts from poor walk around. If you are getting ground staff to remove such straps, en-sure tail struts are stowed and fuel doors closed you might be adding an extra level of complication that's just not needed, especially in a rushed turnaround. And like said before basic dressing the props to 45 will ensure the straps are not latched in, so via correct procedure its very easy to avoid. Not sure why you would complicate with extra steps when the FO could close up and personally supervise all the main elements for such a small aircraft. Might be nice to have the FO sitting in the cockpit doing not much for 10 minutes, but seems like wasted time, but hey having extra people running around outside must be fun to watch and you can bitch about pay and conditions for longer.

BTW starting with the prop brake engaged is not done, its started then braked. From what I've heard starting with a prop strap on is very noticeable, so if the start is monitored as it should be you would notice an abnormal temp and then possibly sudden release when the straps let loose. There is no way they got to lineup not noticing a prop was still stationary, that is definitely beyond belief. So the prop must have been rotating from start at some point and come out of feather as normal.

Indeed, if the photos are genuine the categorisation of the damage as “Minor” is laughable.
Not sure it's that much damage, probably not long in the shop and not much cost to fix considering past events.

I'm more amused at why the QLink brake fire is not listed on ATSB yet... Definitely damage to the wheel assembly and legs from the footage, probably more costly than this fix, and something new that warrants the ATSB having a look see as well as having a look over the evacuation procedures. And then the two Jets that descended below minimum altitude in Cairns has missed the news conveniently.

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