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Old 11th Oct 2022, 07:31
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When it gets miserable in the cockpit and it isn't from last nights curry, a few things are supposed to happen. One of those is a checklist thingy, which starts with some suggestions.

that's enough on that bit.

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fumes in the cockpit is not trivial, it may be given a bit of a low priority, but that isn't always a good thing in the real world. Way back, a crew that were with bone domes and masks on normal ended up with smoke in the cockpit, one crew member got to emergency in about 4 seconds, the other one had to be helped, and while on 100/emergency he was out for the count. There is an immediate action that should be followed, and at least one of the drivers needs to go on ASAP. Have had more than my share of cockpit smoke, on B767 B747 B744 and B777, and a few military aircraft, and none of them are much fun, although one got close to being amusing, The day the Capt left his glasses in Scotland and then left his spares in the hotel happened to be the day the classic B747 ended up with a full dose of smoke in the cockpit, in low viz and snow. Would have been OK but he left his seeing eye dog with his mother in Scotland too. Lost both packs on a B773. and that blew shrapnel all around the belly. Doing the smoke checklist, the FO could not see the EICAS, and could not identify where the right switches were in the overhead. Easy to find, if you whack across at the guys left ear, go up vertically about 18", they are up there. It was thick enough that the vision would not allow looking at both the window and the gauges, which would not be a problem had the APLT stayed happy in it's job.

Prefer engine failures, fires, or control problems over smoke or fire. When someone indicates they are fighting flames it's interesting how fast you can age.


Originally Posted by pattern_is_full
Since procedures do change sometimes, is this still an accurate rendering of the Airbus ECAM/QRH procedures for SMOKE/FUMES/AVNCS SMOKE? In order?

SMOKE/FUMES/AVNCS SMOKE

LAND ASAP

APPLY IMMEDIATELY
VENT EXTRACT.....OVRD
CAB FANS..............OFF
GALLEYS...............OFF
SIGNS....................ON
CKPT/CAB COM....ESTABLISH

• IF REQUIRED:
CREW OXY MASKS...ON/100%/EMERG
• IF SMOKE SOURCE IMMEDIATELY OBVIOUS, ACCESSIBLE AND EXTINGUISHABLE
FAULTY EQPT......ISOLATE
• IF SMOKE SOURCE NOT IMMEDIATELY ISOLATED
DIVERSION...........INITIATE
DESCENT..............INITIATE

....etc.

What is the understood time frame for "immediately obvious" and "immediately isolated?"

What is Airbus's recommendation if any doubt exists regarding the last two items? Is it.......?
DIVERSION...........INITIATE
DESCENT..............INITIATE

What is the Airbus recommendation for troubleshooting? Is it.........?
"Once the diversion is initiated, the troubleshooting may be carried on in an attempt to identify and fight the origin of the smoke."
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