Originally Posted by
dr dre
Well most of that is subjective opinion, but there’s a new form of cancellation pay in SH. Not you’re for hour, but even if you lose time on the SH EBA you get priority in open time, and can easily increase hours over initial roster. It isn’t that difficult and usually end up with more hours. The award works well if you know how to use it. Can also work for flexibility too.
Bonuses whenever management reward themselves which is frequently, out to 9%.
On raw pay Envoy seems to have
the best deal, standard hours of $146/hr for a new Captain (not F/O as was stated previously) at most US regionals. At standard hours for Envoy (72 per roster) and the 10 year average AUD/USD exchange rate that’s $180k AUD. However that’s their rates until August 2024 only, so any new Captain joint now would be on less by the time they hit 4 bars.
Compared to mainline SH FO in 2024 on 3rd year pay would be on $206k at the same hours as Envoy.
Bonuses in both US regionals and SH probably even out at the end of the day.
But that’s it for those who went to a US regional, whereas do 4 years SH and then LH and more pay/time off is open for those in mainline.
Now while there’s some whom the US lifestyle will appeal to the majority of Australians training to be pilots will have a career in Australia. There’s always been more money available for Aussie expats overseas since forever, but the majority of pilots elect to remain in their home country.
At the moment people the complaints are “too much flying”. Shortages mean some crew flying 20-30% over rostered hours. Some skippers will probably make close to $400k this FY
Not really sure how most is subjective but some of the comments on atc etc are.
I think the cancellation pay I speak of is very different to yours. Anything gets cancelled for weather, maintenance, etc, you get paid. You don’t then have to then go and make part of it up. Should you choose to fly more, that’s on top. Also, if you hold for an hour, then get in and your block time is 3 hours rather than 1.5, you get the higher amount.
In regards to your time for ‘4 bars’ that’s 1000 hours in the right seat which you’ll have in a little over a year. However, once you reach 750 hours, you’ll also be paid Captain pay.
Bonuses are 15k until 950 hours then you get 30k. Then upgrade and get 40k. This can all be achieved in 18 months.
There are also duty rigs which I’m not going to though on here. Reading APC can give you some numbers but it’s hard to get a true understanding of what it all means and how it works especially tying into where you live. Best to talk to someone that’s doing it for those that are interested which doesn’t seem to be you Dre. What works for some, may not work for others but without a firm grasp of it, may be best to ask rather than tell. 👍