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Old 20th Feb 2022, 01:53
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Ollie Onion
 
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Originally Posted by Maisk Rotum
Here we go again. For those that haven't flown the 737 there are two switches to turn off if the stab moves in an unintended way. They are turned off as a 'Memory Item'. The Lion crew never turned them off and the Ethiopian crew turned them off after the aircraft was so out of trim it was impossible to fly and then turned them back on again!!! Boeing is not entirely to blame for these two accidents but is certainly not blameless.

You are entirely missing the point, this is not about those two specific accidents. It is about a company culture where the internal communications showed:

- They deliberately downplayed and hid information about MCAS so that it didn't trigger any additional training for customers.
- They penalised financially any employee who put in writing any safety concerns about ANY aircraft programme or quality issues
- They determined that they had made the MCAS response so powerful with it related to a single source of information that crew would have 10 seconds to respond appropriately or face a catastrophic loss of the aircraft.
- They knew should they release internal documents about the design of MCAS it would lead to a grounding of the fleet so they didn't release them.
- They knew the design was likely the main contributing factor in the loss of lives but once again internal emails show them openly discussing that they should just pin it on the pilots as most will believe that since they weren't American pilots they acted badly.
- Should ANY aircraft with a system design that can lead to loss of the aircraft in 10 seconds be certified?
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