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Old 23rd Jan 2022, 05:45
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I have to agree the 'died with covid' thing is getting a bit silly, and really it's only used because they have no other way of releasing figures in real time, there seems to be about a 20-30% error factor for using this method. To ascertain cause of death this takes another week or so, and by then people are not interested in what happened last week, this is why the UK has the ONS which collates all the data and separates 'died with' (had covid within x timeframe) vs 'died of' (covid was listed on the death certificate) and releases regular reports on mortality, which includes well thought out covid statistics. Australia has the RBS which should be doing the same but is not really keeping up.

Personally I don't see the need for the general public to get boosters at such frequent stages, only those that are vulnerable. In any other case the residual run down of the vaccination is fine for most of the public out past 6 months, more than enough to stop you from getting seriously ill of die. That stats are proving that.

Table 5 indicates two dose cases at 75x the number of zero dose while in the general population two dose are only 15x the zero dose numbers. Aussie Bob was alluding to this in the bigger picture than just a proportional number.
That's obviously due to a number of factors, one being those that are vaccinated tend to be less careful about how they move around. Also there are not the clusters of unvaccinated in Australia like there is in the UK and USA where it spreads like wildfire and kills a vast number. Even the death rate shows that it has dropped to 1/4 of what it was during delta for the unvaxxed, which is again probably due to lower age groups and prior infections, although still nowhere near as low as the vaxxed population.
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