Havick, for clarification the majority of those with 20-30 years AirMed experience will be with the RFDS and many of those if not all, will only have worked for the RFDS. Re the migration of 5% from the RFDS I mean from all of the their operations (not just those previously employed on the NSW air ambulance contract) that number might be around 20%. Reference the average experience in about two years (2-4years experience), I wouldn't expect much change to that thereafter. (assuming pay and conditions don't change)