Originally Posted by
jonkster
the viability of setting up the CASR's into a logic tree would depend on the the CASR's being consistently logical.
1. You must demonstrate how to enter and recover from an incipient spin as a unit of competency to attain a SEA type rating (eg a PPL)
(and incipient spins are spins that haven't stabilised - many aircraft will require multiple turns to move from incipient spin to stable spin)
2. You must not deliberately spin an aircraft that is not certified for spinning (most ab initio GA training aircraft)
3. Therefore you cannot teach students to PPL standard solely in aircraft that cannot be spun (eg warrior, 152/172, DA40, etc)
OR
1. Grade 3 instructors cannot conduct a flight review
2. Grade 3 instructors with a DFE can issue a DF Endorsement
3. A DFE counts as a flight review
4. Therefore a Grade 3 instructor can issue a flight review. But not conduct one.
OR
1. a PPL can hold a DFE instructor rating and conduct DFE training.
2. DFE training can be done outside of part 141, 142
3. non 141,142 instructing is classified as a private operation
4. Therefore a PPL can receive payment for instructing (if it is towards a DFE).
5. Also a DFE counts as a Flight Review
6. Therefore a PPL can issue a flight review. But not conduct one.
…OR
Can I, as private pilot, lawfully fly a PC12 with 8 mates on board?
Yes, if you or one of your mates is the registered owner of the PC12 and no payment or reward is made or given in relation to the carriage of the passengers.
No, if neither you nor any of your mates is the registered owner of the PC12.
I was the registered owner of the PC 12 last week but, on my accountant’s advice, sold it to a $1 company of which I’m the sole director and now the company is the registered owner of the PC12. The company hires the aircraft to me at an arm’s length rate. Can I lawfully fly it this week with 8 mates on board?
No.
How did the change in ownership from me to my $1 company make the operation ‘dangerous’? (Puff of smoke, dazzling mirrors and a deep voice uttering: “It’s in the interests of the safety of air navigation!”)
OR
Can I cost share a flight on the PC12 with only 1 passenger?
No. The aircraft has a maximum seat configuration of more than 6.
What if I remove 3 of the seats?
No. The aircraft still has a maximum seat configuration of 9.
So if the company sells the aircraft back to me and I become the registered owner, it will again become ‘safe’ for me as a private pilot to fly my 8 mates around, provided there’s no payment or reward? Why’s that?
(Puff of smoke, dazzling mirrors and a deep voice uttering: “It’s in the interests of the safety of air navigation!”)
OR
My company sells the PC12 and buys a Bonanza and hires that to me at an arm’s length rate. Can I fly myself and 3 mates around as a private pilot?
Yes, provided you are not remunerated and you pay your company at least one quarter of the direct costs of the flight.
So I can be rewarded but not remunerated?
Yes, reward is not mentioned in the definition of cost-sharing flight.
Why’s it OK for me to be rewarded for a cost-sharing flight in an aircraft owned by someone else but not if I owned the aircraft and didn’t cost share? (Puff of smoke, dazzling mirrors and a deep voice uttering: “It’s in the interests of the safety of air navigation!”)
So just to be clear, provided the aircraft I hire has a maximum seat configuration of 6 and I am not remunerated for the flight and I at least pay my share of the direct costs, I can do that as a private pilot?
Yes.
What if all of my mates pay my $1 company e.g. double their share of the fixed costs of the flight?
Errmmm, that’s you being remunerated.
No it’s not. My company is being remunerated.
Well… you are one and the same.
No I”m not. If I were, you’d treat me as the registered owner but you don’t.
Errmmm (
Puff of smoke, dazzling mirrors and a deep voice uttering: “It’s in the interests of the safety of air navigation!”)