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Old 30th Oct 2021, 11:05
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But will it really? Given the widespread availability of the vaccine in the USA from at least mid-year, I’d argue the deaths will be similar. Total deaths is upto 750,000, so that would mean around 400,000 this year (yes it’s not over yet). Hardly a dramatic increase.
Never said it was going to be a dramatic increase, however that being said it will be about 20% higher than 2020, depends whether you think that a 20% increase is a similar number, large increase or whatever.

Heart disease was already on the rise every year displayed in your statistics. Diabetes as well. That’s probably got more to do with the rise in obese Americans than Covid!!
Trend is what you look for, the numbers will increase because the population in increasing. But, when you see CVD rising by 30,000 deaths in 4 years (average of less than 8,000 a year) and then jump 30,000 deaths in 1 year, that's above trend and usually indicates some additional factor. Diabetes follows a similar path, about 4500 a year trend then suddenly a 13,000 jump in 2020. This is all pre-Vaccine so no hand of those in additional deaths either.

As far as Obesity increase, that horse bolted probably back in the 80s for the US, as a trend % of population it would be statistically neutral or maybe slightly on the improve as of late. Like Covid tallies, most of those CVD and cancer deaths would be in the old aged as well, like I said if you could completely cure those you would be seeing humans live forever.
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