Originally Posted by
Tinribs
We as, a group. seems to be avoiding the great truth preventing the forward motion of opinion. Scotland as a country has the right to decide it's future in or out of UK.
The arguments almost always descend to a confrontation between the emotional desire of Scots to see their country independent and the economic costs of that need. The two can never be balanced because one is a number and the other a thought, the size of each are not measurable.
In quandaries such as this it is the democratic custom to seek the will of the population and according to the outcome direction and size decide. We will not even approach a solution to this problem until both countries agree on a logical system of decision making, which we will never do. We are doomed to many years of pointless argument.
It is a pretty fundamental point of logic that one saws upon with great care the branch upon which you sit. The SNP has a pretty fundamental burden that the realities that drove Union in the 1700s aren't still in many ways fundamentally true. Can an independent Scotland provide a value add to its citizens in the realms currently held by Westminster?
This is only as emotional an argument as it is allowed to be. At the end of the day, there are fundamental assumptions about the value added of an independent Scotland that simply haven't be discussed meaningfully.
I'm a fan of political devolution and the concept of subsidiarity as a general rule. However, in a world where increasingly aggressive leviathans threaten the rules based order, making the assumption that a rules based order itself requires no maintenance and is the general state of mankind is a proposition without evidence.