It's quite interesting to see the different levels of optimism across the message boards. I guess I'm a glass-half-empty sort of guy but I can't really see any movement in the job market for pilots for 2-3 years, and even then I would expect airlines to push through some sort of B-scale for new joiners, in an attempt to claw back the billions lost. I think we have a tough few years ahead (relative to what we once had). As long as we all have jobs again I guess that's the first step, and let's hope that happens sooner rather than later. Nice to see some people aren't as negative as me though!