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Old 1st Mar 2021, 23:28
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Icarus2001
 
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There is no doubt Covid is killing people in significant numbers. The fatality rate somewhere between 2% and 3%.

I am certainly not a conspiracy theorist but I know that if there is an incentive to pad the figures then it will happen.

Reading your post, you are certainly correct about the "excess death rate" being a useful measure. I did wonder though about these...

important surgery being cancelled
which would no doubt lead to people dying who could, with surgery, have survived...

ambulances told to not transport patients due to full hospitals
again that would mean people who would normally be admitted and treated being turned away.

So not all the excess deaths are due to Covid directly, some are no doubt as a result indirectly as they were not treated or even admitted to hospital. Also the numbers of people avoiding presenting at a doctor or hospital with symptoms (not Covid) because they do not wish to be a burden on the NHS.

frontline health workers describing the conditions are the worst they’ve ever seen, the mass graves, etc
Mass graves in the UK? Really? Where?

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