Can you cite an example whereby a country automatically recognizes a licence from another country without a conversion procedure? What is clear is that UK schools don't want to lose their business and for them remaining in the EASA system is crucial and they made it clear a long ago when they asked the UK government to let the UK CAA remain an EASA member. Are you arguing that 32 British HOT made the wrong call by applying for an EASA ATO certificate?