But if the administrators come up with a 20 cents on the dollar deal (to keep Virgin running / restructure ) or even 60 cents on the dollar, Hell 90 cents on the dollar, why would anyone even consider being part of Virgin2 ? I mean if you were an investor big or even a small one why wouldn't you invest in a thousand other things before you invested in a business that has already proven is pretty much a disaster, especially in the current climate. I don't see any way Virgin has a chance. I want it to keep flying, I really do, but it seems to me like it's all over.