Just a quick correction George. QF never offered the JQ flying to Qantas pilots. Never. It had already been claimed by impulse pilots by the time AIPA was any the wiser. The impulse pilots offered to fly the A320 for the same money the we’re flying the 717’s. QF couldn’t resist. I was there. AIPA actually helped them get more money, but the only thing QF (and the fat bastard) would agree to was a fairly useless MOU.