Dopey glorified schoolgirl
About the level of observation we've come to expect. I said back at post #3 this thread was a bad idea. Of all the Erebus threads this has reached a new low, thanks to one poster with his bile, invectiveness and libellous statements (I read all the posts prior to deletion). I can't fathom how he has not been banned, this thread is beyond the pall, and the likes of it I've not seen on Pprune.
More controversially, however, the Judge went on to find that witnesses from Air New Zealand had conspired to give false evidence to his inquiry. This led to his report being severely criticised by both Air New Zealand and the then Prime Minister. When the airline took judicial review proceedings, both the Court of Appeal and the Privy Council found the Judge’s findings of conspiracy and deception unsupported and contrary to the principles of natural justice.But what was lost in all this was the fact that no challenge was made to the Judge’s findings as to the cause of the accident. On the contrary, the Law Lords placed on record their tribute to the brilliant and painstaking investigative work undertaken by the Judge in the course of his inquiry. They said there was ample supportive evidence at the Judge’s inquiry for his conclusions about causation, and noted that his different conclusion from the Chief Inspector was based in part on new evidence before the Judge that was not available to the Chief Inspector.In particular, the Privy Council said, and I quote, “the Royal Commission Report convincingly clears Captain Collins and First Officer Cassin of any suggestion that negligence on their part had in any way contributed to the disaster. That is unchallenged.”
I've come to the conclusion that our poster is a relative of the briefing officer or the navigation officer, and is attempting to shine the spotlight away from their involvement.
This accident was seminal in showing James Reasons Swiss Cheese model in action, lack of training (never been to the ice previously), failure to follow SOPs by most if not all flights, airline culture, lackadaisical administration being just a few. Military flights were not permitted to overfly Erebus, it's a Strombolian volcano after all capable of throwing debris over 6,500 feet in hight ie to 18,950 feet, lava bombs 10 metres in diameter were known to go to 15,700. LSALT was 16,000, what was the airline thinking, military aircraft were not permitted to overfly Erebus, it's merely a demonstration of how out of their depth the airline was and the lack of planning involved. Why would you overfly Erebus? The military required crews to ride on three trips to Antarctica before flying themselves. I flew for many years with a chap who captained the first RAAF C-130 to the ice, he had his indoctrination with a RNZAF C-130 crew, on boarding the aircraft the Commander said "you can have the left seat" rather than the expected jump, and was absolutely gob smacked of the offer, but also with the instruction for him to run the show as he saw fit. Of course he had the backup of all the high experience in the right and jump seat, unlike ANZ crews.
A heartfelt salutation to all who have suffered, it's an event that has taught the professionals within the aviation industry much.