however if you have a listen to the rest of the story, it would reveal that most people just want the company to negotiate fairly and without the bulls!t QF policies that have been made up on the fly and are only there when convenient to disadvantage. If its ever a QF policy to our advantage, the answer is 'No, your low cost.' The company negotiators are utter muppets that have no authority, bargaining ability or say in any future of the agreement. They are merely there is stalwarts who aren't actually allowed to make any decisions, hence the reaction that your getting from the crew.
I don't disagree with any of that statement and it has certainly been the case with all the JQ EBA's. It is unfortunately standard QF Group HR practise to send in the clowns then when actual decisions need to be made those with authority come in. Have a chat to the EBA cc about how their latest agreement was negotiated. In my view however it makes the current application for PIA even less effective than the usual ineffectiveness of PIA.