What Faa Delegation Does—How And Why?
TOPICS:Boeing 737 Max8Mike Borfitz“Designated Airworthiness Representative’ (Dar)“Designated Engineering Representative” (Der)
Now, according to the Boeing website, it has over 45,000 engineers spread throughout the entire company. Such a deep roster of talent, the aerospace company has incredibly deep and specific expertise for new designs and to manage the safety and airworthiness of the nearly 14,000 Boeing airplanes flying today.
OK - the article IMHO is partly misleading
First- SPEEA has a total membership of about 20,000 total Engineers AND Techs which includes most ( all? ) DER/ODA type
The majority of the DER/ODA types are in the Seattle Area- Dont know the numbers, but perhaps- maybe 1000 ??
When SPEEA went on strike in 2000-2001, Boeing could NOT deliver any planes without a DER ' signature ' - That was one reason Boeing pushed a few years later the ODA system...
Granted there are some in Aerospace- St louis, etc but for commercial seattle- renton- everett is where its at.
Second -
Under the ' old' DER system- the DER could and did report directly to hjis/her FAA counterpart or committee re the area involved but were of course paid by Boeing.
But under the ODA system, the same " DER" reported THRU Boeing managment to the FAA- and could/was effectively ' filtered ' based on cost, schedule, or management incompetence.
The result is history