Originally Posted by
KBW10101
Im sure the RAF Would he happy to award them a brevet,
1. Once they have the requisite qualifications ( academically) equal to non commissioned aircrew at present or an equivalent entry standard to aircrew branches.
2. Attend OASC ( like all other non commissioned aircrew do )
3. Pass a CFS accredited flying course to be awarded a flying Badge IAW with QR206 ( like all other non communised aircrew do)
The “awarding” of a brevet retrospectively would have zero merit. Im sure the MAA could try and persuade 22 group and the Central Flying School otherwise but all it would do is de- Value the existing cadre of aircrew brevets if awarded for doing merely nothing.
It seems pretty clear that the RAF would not be happy to award CC an Aircrew Brevet, but happy or not, CC are aircrew, the Regulator says so! You say that CC must jump through the various paper hoops demanded to become RAF aircrew and it would appear that they do not do so now. Thus they do not qualify as trained aircrew, as required by the RTS of the various a/c they man. Therefore all such aircraft are being operated outside of their RTS and should be grounded until fully trained aircrew are available to man them. All this because an obdurate operator will not submit to the mandated rules of the Regulator!
All it needs is for the RAF to recognise its Cabin Crew as Aircrew iaw the MAA regulations. It really is that simple. All this tosh about de-valuing the "existing cadre of Aircrew Brevets" is just that, utter tosh. A Pilot is not a Navigator, is not an ALM, is not Cabin Crew. The are all different (and should indeed have their own Brevets) but they are all aircrew.
If the MAA demanded that the cabin carpets be hoovered in flight and required a "Flight Cleaner" as part of every crew then that Cleaner would be Aircrew; headscarf, drooping fag, Nora Batty stockings, and all. Aircrew isn't a status, it's a description, and RAF Aircrew are identified by the wearing of a Brevet. So give CC a Brevet.