Originally Posted by
itsnotthatbloodyhard
22L threshold is at 1.4 DME, so she’s asking for 180+ to 1200’ (3.6 nm from the threshold). How she thinks that’s in any way a sensible requirement is beyond me.
Up until six months ago fought that JFK fight every day.
ATC there are great, they really are, but like all of us, they learn on the job. If an operator regularly flys at 180 until 3 miles, an expectation has been set and they'll
ask for that. Previous crews likely backed themselves into a corner or were unstablised and continued to 'make ATC happy'.
In the US, use the word 'Unable'. there's no need to invoke 'FAA standards' like this crew did. Leave it at that one word and make it ATC's problem.
Then either ask for their phone number; or use your company' channels to explain what your procedures and requirements are. ATC do want to work with everybody.