Originally Posted by
plainpilot11
reason and logic would dictate that the question has to be answered, “How did CX that was cleared for the visual 28L end up UNDERNEATH United that was cleared for 28R.” Taking into account the facts that they missed actually turning the airplane when they were supposed to, means yes they were distracted. Why? Maybe because they were trying to set up the box for a visual 28L, instead of leaving the ILS 28L and flying it as such? Regardless, they were heads down when they should have been heads up. Flying through the LOC in SFO for 28’s is asking for an in-flight, a tragedy that would have made Asiana’s look minor.
yes agree, now factor in that:-
The CX crew were not in “their own backyard”
The CX crew had flown 12 hours through their night time and were arriving at a circadian low period.
The CX crew may only do 2 to 3 PF sectors a month.
The CX crew have to deal with many many different ATC systems all over the World and cannot be expected to be familiar or current on SFO’s quirky procedures that they may only be exposed to once every six months.
The UA crew are exactly the opposite, flying a LOT of sectors in their own backyard and probably frequently into SFO.
This is exactly why SFO ATC should NEVER use this type of visual approach with foreign Long Haul carriers....... ever.
Some countries ATC will not allow visual approaches by foreign Carriers into their Airports following previous incidents for exactly the above reasons I mention above.