All the above is correct , the AIPA elections will be fascinating to watch as a lot of members aren’t happy and are doing something about it, I think a changing of the guard is underway. As for the EBA negotiations after talking to other people in Qantas it would appear that the company has gone from 3% no offsets to wanting offsets now and dragging the chain. Anecdotal evidence to me would indicate that loads internationally especially to the US are deteriorating and unlike domestic you can’t just cancel them , so I hint there is some financial pressure on. We live in interesting times.