@Raski, The share price would indicate otherwise. You are correct re the airline, I was referring to the PLC which is now at the level of debt that MYT plc and TCX plc restructured on previous occasions. As a share holder and employee, I do have the picture. Unfortunately, the airline is the only asset left to reduce debt and imho will not be an easy thing to sell for its worth. I think the future will be “rice or noodles” rather than “chicken or beef”!