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Old 3rd May 2019, 13:17
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KT1988
 
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@2unlimited: And UK is also still members of the EU and they follow only those regulations that they have signed.... as you know Ireland are also members of the EU. And recently I believe Ryan Air found out they do not need to give Irish contracts to people in Eastern Europe since the local laws let them self employ people just as LOT is doing. And LOT is not employing people after 2-3 years at least I did not hear the captains working for LOT tell anything like that and they already worked that long, plus probably almost no one in Poland would really wish to pay the higher tax in exchange for Polish employment.

Oh and I believe you missed the four freedoms of EU while you keep telling me EU can govern employee contracts in any state (and it can not). It is that everyone from any country is to be treated equally (even LOT now hire foreign pilots). So you need to definitely speak German or Dutch fluently but you do not have to have the nationality to be working for Lufthansa or KLM. https://www.pilotcareercentre.com/Ai...Dutch-Airlines actually they only need to be willing to learn Dutch for example. So you believe you know everything but it happens to not be the reality. As for Lufthansa you need to already speak fluent German but thats it (I actually speak German (and many pilots in Poland do), with some work it could be with correct grammar and fluent, but it never entered my mind to dream of flying for Lufthansa)

As for Ryan Air salaries, I talked with Ryan Air FO and he is receiving the advertised salary, I also talked with a Captain and he also receive a proper salary. So I do not know personally but I believe them more than someone on a forum telling me that Ryan Air do not pay the salary they put in the contract.

As for living in Poland.... well in Norway a SAS FO gets lower salary than a factory worker in Norway. Its definitely not cool, and the cost of living is so high that you live better having 50 % of the Norwegian salary in Poland not to mention that at Ryan Air you can get like 80 % of the Norwegian pilot netto salary at least if not more. BTW salary is not everything for me since I do also invest and I do not actually need to have a job to survive, I wish to fly because I enjoy it and its my dream. As for other things than the obvious that in Norway you need more than 2x netto salary to be able to buy the same stuff as in Poland (cars, houses, food and especially enjoyment like going out). Its also the fact that the state is extremely controlling maybe most in whole Europe and I hate the state to tell me how to live. I do not wish to have the state to tell me when I can go out, to tell me when and where I can buy something, to tell me what kind of dog I am allowed to own, to risk jail if I speed a little on autobahn etc. itd. Its certainly the perfect society for factory workers and especially for people who do not wish to work at all but feel "entitled" to everything. Its a perfect society for everyone except business owners, hard working people, professions that require a lot of learning and investment etc. They just get exploited to pay for those who do not wish to work at all + to pay for all the stuff like fancy toilets and cultural stuff like naked artists running on the scene..... And when I hear the future coalitionists of the future AP Norwegian government speak (Lysbakken (SV) and Moxnes (Rødt) + whole MDG (if they could they would forbid flying at all and make you use a horse and carriage) ) it gets my blood to almost boil, so I am definitely going to be happy that I do not live there when the real socialists come to get your money and control your life even more.

Last but not least I forgot about the Norwegian reward for everyone who work hard and do not spend all his money like those people in luksusfellen, if you actually save and invest the state will reward you with formueskatt its a tax you have to pay from your savings no matter if you for example own an aircraft (or a house) and you can really not sell a part of it to pay the tax, the state still want you to pay. One company got so pissed they tried to pay the tax in very valuable metal chains (according to the taxman assessment) but the state did not wish the unsellable chains its taxman valued so much and forced the company to almost go bankrupt to pay tax for owning those chains. Oh and I just forgot they are planning to get back to the tax on dying so called arveavgift so if you die they will tax your hard taxed money once again so your family do not get what you worked hard for.

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