Xwindldg, I see you and MC are flailing all over the forums desperately trying to sow dissension. Not only are you transparently company lap dogs, but you lost. Lost big. Get over it and perhaps try and find a job your mother would actually be proud of you for. Working 12 hours a day in your Swire cubicle must be soul destroying. Why don't the two of you just resign and go on holiday together, somewhere your morals and outlook will make you welcome, like Venezuela.