Originally Posted by
ExtraShot
Almost certainly not.
I seem to remember that the arbitrated result wasn’t at all that unfavorable for the pilots in the end. Quite a good result actually...
I wouldn’t guarantee an arbitration over Jetstar pilots merely asking for the same pay as Qantas pilots, for doing the same work, would work out in the company’s favor either.
Exactly what part of the arbitrated result was good for the pilots? The pay rises given were no better than the pay rises given to other EBA work groups at that time, so it can’t be the pay.
Or do you mean the mean the introduction of “redeployment” - a big win for Qantas and change to seniority that aipa would never have agreed to.
How about the introduction of shared blank lines without the pilots getting a vote? Or the introduction of “postings”, which aipa would never have agreed to.
None of the key job security or group seniority aipa claims that were the entire point of the eba campaign were agreed to by fair work. Neither were any of aipa’s claims about pay rates for the 787, which makes it pretty obvious that they won’t arbitrate terms and conditions for any future types including 777 or A350.
A deal as good or better than the arbitrated deal would have been negotiable from day 1 instead of the protracted “campaign” of red ties and PAs and millions of dollars funding lawyers’ lifestyles and mortgages through legal feee.
If you think the long haul determination was a win for the pilots then you clearly do not understand its detail and its value as legal precedent that gives senior management huge certainty that makes them unafraid to end up there again.
The naivety on display here is enormous.