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Old 14th Jan 2019, 07:50
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Progress Wanchai
 
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Originally Posted by unitedabx
Who in their right mind would enter into pay negotiations with the default that if agreement cannot be reached ( and rember it hasn't been reached in the last 4 years ) then the company pays 1%. The company need not even turn up to the negotiations and you would be agreeing to 1%. Ridiculous prospect. No pre-conditions, no end to CC and TD until negotiations are completed and the bottom line is 3% increase backdated to match all other CX employees.

KA DPA pushing for 0%. Outrageaous position to take.
unitedabx,

I respect this is more a forum for emotional venting than actual discussion, but I’ll try anyway.
The HKAOA is not in CC/TB over pay (or ARAPA). Nor will it ever be again. It is in CC/TB over RP’s and HKPA. While you personally can have you’re own level of self imposed industrial action, only the members decide when AOA industrial action begins and ends and for what purpose.

Try it just for fun. Propose a members motion to add pay or ARAPA to our current industrial campaign. It won’t pass as it’ll be seen to dilute a potential HKPA increase. Look no further than the thread where a former GC member unashamedly admitted the NC/GC unsuccessfully attempted to divert a pay offer into HKPA. It’s a safe bet that given the choice, any discretionary budget surplus the FOP department may offer our way, the GC/members will negotiate/vote to have it included into the HKPA tables rather than a pay rise, or ARAPA be returned to previous levels. The robbing of Peter to pay Paul has already started and will only get worse.

The DPA can afford to do nothing as their housing formula forms part of their COS, As far as protecting xpat benefits is concerned, the HKAOA aren’t afforded the luxury of doing nothing. Unfortunately negotiations regarding pay or housing will never be enhanced with the leverage of an organized, sanctioned industrial campaign. When AT cancelled ARAPA, she understood the pilot demographics.
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