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Old 20th Sep 2018, 23:19
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drustsonoferp
 
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Originally Posted by VinRouge
It has massive relevance and people need to wake up to it. The civvies are rapidly moving away from radio based due to cost. That means rapidly reducing availabilory of VORDME and ILS. It just costs too much. Once CAT 3 autoland APV VNAV is the norm, forget using civvie bases as diversions. Issues with certification of mil spec GPS as a civilian certified RNP sensor, plus others. There is already airspace certified as RNAV only through Europe and the Middle East. No certification (to civilian equivalent standard)? No play. And as it was introduced for capacity reasons, forget an exemption during busy periods.

​​​​​​Certainly be interesting to see how we will cope with only three major radio nav aids in the UK as well.

PTs aware, unfortunately as per usual, CNS ATM compliance is dull compared to shooty warry stuff and wont be looked at. There are other cns atm issues on top of PBN.

So can't do anything until probably d day -6 months, then there will be panic as we try to meet the equipment, operational and training requirements, a la 8.33 spacing.

The fact we need to get from A to B to use said warry stuff seems to have been lost.

I will be bemused to see how we will meet 4D nav requirements we have inbound in the next few years.

Bedtime reading:

https://www.eurocontrol.int/publicat...​​
As ever, PTs (DTs now, for Delivery. Do keep up with the unnecessary changes to nomenclature) can want or recommend what they want, but it's up to Air Command to decide what they wish to spend their money on: DE&S do not hold the purse strings. It'll be interesting to see what progress is made against this requirement.
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