Pots and Kettles, old boy, Pots and Kettles! The EU hasn't taken responsibility for anyone's security for the last 40 odd years, let alone ours, and I wasn't implying that it had. Now however it is implying that it will be taking responsibility for it with the EU Army (if we decide in the end against checking out and voting as per the DS). That responsibility will eventually protect member nations of the 'unified' European Union from themselves, just as other unions have similarly protected their member nations from themselves (including our own, as has been repeatedly pointed out here). That possibility or probability (depending on one's glass being half full, etc) is what we now have to confront. We have done so frequently in the past and no doubt will do so again in the future, unless mother nature drains the English Channel. That is what I was talking about....