The idiocy/ stuff up was not offering redeployment positions on the A330 in anticipation of the churn that would occur with the introduction of the 787. Once the decision not to redeploy had been made (allegedly by the level above Flight Ops influenced by IR) the 767 RIN was always going to go down exactly the way it did- completely in accordance with the award. I don’t think 767 crew have ever thought the actual process was stuffed up, just the underlying decision making of choosing that particular pathway.
Circumstances this time are vastly different and the available pathways aren’t yet clear because the final decisions regarding disposition of the 744 fleet and how it’ll overlap the 787 fleet haven’t yet been made. Hence my suggestion that the angst is premature.
That doesn’t mean it still won’t be stuffed up (from a strategic point of view in terms of best benefit for both crew and airline) but we’re 12 months or so from a) knowing what pathways are available, and, b) which pathway may produce the best win/ win.
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Tankengine
Now is certainly the time to point out to both sets of negotiators to get this right and not get into a confrontational situation.
No need for confrontation. The EA covers the process. Pretty cut and dried.
Originally Posted by
Tankengine
QF managers have differing opinions as to what the EBA RIN process means. One manager is hoping pilots will do reduced lines (at reduced pay) until the end to stop multiple RINs - pigs arse!! 160hrs min thank you.
I do get the sense that many line pilots haven’t actually read the relevant section of the agreement nor looked at the numbers and how the scenarios could play out. If a manager has a ‘differing opinion’ of how a RIN works then they haven’t read the agreement either. A manager can ‘hope’ until they’re blue in the face but reduced value lines can only be offered. They don’t appear as part of the RIN process. So the company may offer them but no one has to take one.
Of course a pilot may choose to take one to be able to retire when the 744 finishes instead of being RIN’d and taking a 787 redeployment position earlier. Again, pathways to be mapped out when there is greater information about specific 744 retirements and 787 arrivals. Future 787 orders for delivery from early 2021 may also play into the process as well and those won’t be announced until about this time next year.