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Old 12th Aug 2018, 15:53
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Toryu
 
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Originally Posted by PukinDog
What's with all these fallacies? Your false dichotomy was answered in my first post; If he felt he needed to self-delete I'd rather he had found a handy cliff to jump off or simply hanged himself from the rafters of his garage, endangering nobody else and requiring the fewest number of people to clean up the mess. He had a slew other choices to go out out quietly that didn't involve operating a large piece of fast-moving machinery with reckless abandon around other people.

One thing's for sure, if he had unintentionally T-boned another aircraft full of passengers during or after takeoff, or at any point for any reason lit-up and char-broiled a restaurant full of people eating their meals, the empathy bandwagon for this suicidal plane-thief wouldn't be rolling so heavy with "poor troubled soul his intention wasn't to hurt anyone" platitudes re mental health.

He wasn't a pilot trained on the aircraft, and with no training to operate/manipulate things automatically or almost subconsciously without thinking, in order to start engines, taxi, and get airborne/climb out he was acting consciously in a planned fashion. At all those points he knew what he was doing could have produced balled-up flaming metal that could affect/hurt others. Therefore, his voicing a supposed concern about "others" to the controller once airborne are meaningless words at that point if it comes to making an assumption about the actual level that existed when he spoke them. And again, if he had really meant them when he spoke them he would have speared it into the waves where he could see to be certain no others were instead of the woods where he couldn't.
The funny thing is: Even though he didn't have any training, he pulled it off and managed to stay true to his intent, not hurting anybody.
That suggests that not only is flying the airplane a lot easier than you make it to be (which it is), but also flying the good old "see and avoid" VFR-thingy mostly works.
He did have some help by ATC clearing the airspace, which also was easier by him adressing them and stating his intentions.

As others have already mentioned: Your understanding of mental illness and suicidal people is less than basic.
Using clever-sounding vocabulary like dichotomy can't put a band-aid on that.
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