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Old 7th Aug 2018, 08:46
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Take a look at the RYR incident in Eindhoven:
Interesting one. Lots of lessons for everybody there but the recovery *was* screwed up as power was put on first (TOGA) *then* an attempt to pitch down, which was made much harder by the large pitch/power couple now existing. They went to 26.5degs NU and 97kts before getting the pitch under control. Not getting at the pilots in any way as they were handed a really nasty situation, although the approach was not (and was never going to be) stable at any point...

The new group of aviators will have only ever learned nose down and power idle until fully recovered then smoothly add power, and that is likely to also cause a crash someday too
Possible but what really starts the whole chain of events is getting the aeroplane in a low energy state near the ground. It’s hard to deliberately fly something into the deck (unless that’s what you want) but it is easy to be forced into it due lack of energy. There is an area in the flight envelope for most aircraft (with the exception of very high thrust:weight ratios) where drag overwhelms power available and you need to get out of that area before a recovery can be effective.

If you’re getting stick shaker at 500’, then either conditions are such that an approach is not prudent or you haven’t been paying attention to flying basics, in which case I refer to my earlier comment about recoveries. The stick shaker doesn’t change its tune whether you are 1kt or 15kts into its warning envelope, so you’re experiencing a time-critical event and need to do the right thing right now!
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