Originally Posted by
BizJetJock
Sorry, but that is complete nonsense.I suggest you speak to someone who can actually read the regulations.
NOT nonsense. Talking professional licences here.....
The holder of a Third Country (i.e ICAO...which of course, EASA isn't a member of..!) licence can no longer fly, N or ANY foreign registered aircraft, for reward, in the EU, if that aircraft is OPERATED from within the EU. So...if you have an N registered Global, based in London, operated by a company in Spain, then an FAA pilot CANNOT fly it for reward. However....neither can an EASA pilot, unless that pilot has an FAA ticket, because its outside the USA too....! BUT...WHICH licence do you fly it on? You fly on both...not possible....! The Fed's say you need an appropriate rating/currency etc in line with FAR/AIM and EASA (eeARSEerr) say you need part FCL as appropriate. Who is right? Well eeARSEer say it's illegal to use your FAA ticket....so do the FAA, say its wrong to use your eeARSEerr ticket. It was done, half cocked, with no real World validation process and NO argument for flight safety or similar. There is no real validation process that works either (unlike 2 reg or M reg for examples that accept both licences based on original being current/valid). Think about it...an FAA pilot says "I want to fly this N reg CJ2 out of London, for a private owner"...WHY oh WHYYYY can eeARSEerr not simply say "Here is a Part FCL based on your FAA ticket, medical and currency, to fly THAT specific aircraft for THAT specific purpose"?? If its private use, why not let them fly a G reg...or CS reg...or...or....???? It's simple, dumbass bureaucracy. And PLEASE, don't spout off about protecting European's jobs etc...as a lot of these guys ARE Europeans. AND...dont spout off about safety as there is no case and in fact, FAA ATP's CANNOT hold a so called "frozen" ATP...they have to have proper experience/hours...not 250 and have their hands held, or have a "Multi Crew" only licence, where they can't actually fly a piston or light plane, but can only operate a Sim as part of a crew.
So...to put it bluntly, all you guys that voted Brexit and are now bitching you might not have a licence....get over it. All you people that for years, sounded off about doing the exams (when a chunk didn't, but got Grandfather rights or sat a lot less stringent, poorly managed exams and validations), who are now in the same boat...grab a life jacket and a paddle...because you're possibly up the same creek as the FAA guys now and....the reigning point....it's a fu**ing disgrace for the UK issued EASA guys, the FAA guys and everyone in between. MAYBE there could actually be some camaraderie and a real proposal for a real and FAIR (Across the board!!) validation process!!!
As for Bilateral Safety Agreements...the engineers have had it for years...the pilots never have...and there isn't one forthcoming from either side of the pond. The whole situation, for all these pilots is FUBAR!