BM. I agree with a fair bit of what you said. But you missed the point. At my FF I found the maligned gentleman open, frank, encouraging and obviously intelligent. Insecure? Not open to challenge? Moronic? OK he is a bit altitude limited. He took a mountain of flack with generosity. Anyway I completely disagree with the post against which I commented. At the end of the day, do we want to sort the problems out or not? Blithering on about no retreat and no surrender is just a part of a line from a comedy movie. The world is more complex than that. We need both parties in the negotiation/s to be prepared to give a little than maybe we will, both groups, gain a lot. And NO I am not management and YES I have been here a long time and I still like the place, Hong Kong and Cathay.