Where Are They Now?Please feel free to post contact information here if you are looking for long lost friends or trying to find out what has happened to colleagues. Obituaries and condolences can be posted here too.
It's ironic that 238 ppruners have looked at this post, yet only 2 have answered it . Looking at the last 100 days postings, only 3 posts attracted more viewers, (or should that be voyeurs ), and one of those was posted by SurveySlut.
Can I just say how much I appreciated Hogg's willingness to change his stance on this post. He subsequently sent me a very nice email which I appreciated.
It's interesting that whenever a gay person seeks other gay contacts it's immediately assumed that it's for sex. This assumption wouldn't be true say for a women pilot or black pilot looking for similar. It's about making some friends who have a common life experience and share our aviation interest.
Niknak - yes I noticed that loads of people had looked too. I have had no emails at all. Here's hoping for a bit more response.
By the way.... out of interest....
I am currently in Tyler, Tx (Oxford's Fair Weather Base). Home in three weeks...
C'mon chaps, Trevord made a serious request here. Is no-one else going to step forward and get something serious going here? Don't tell me that of the 50,000 registered / 5,000 regular PPRuNe users, NO-ONE else will step up?
Don't fly commercially unfortunately, have PPL though and do work in an airlines operations department and yes I'm gay.
We do have "several" gay pilots working for us but due to prejudices within the aviation industry (certainly in the UK) stiff upper lip and all that c**p, they are in the closet, except to closest of friends.
You'd think in this day and age, educated individuals such as our fine colleagues, would know better than to be so bigoted and prejudiced. Another thought is that perhaps they have issues with their own sexuality.
But then I guess we really do want to jump into bed with every male we see. YEA RIGHT!
Well indeed - I'm sure that there are bigoted people in this profession as there are in so many other walks of life but my experience is that the fear a gay person has of living life openly generally exceeds the actual bad consequences.
My experience with homophobic people is that if you are professional, good at your job, knowledgable, and conduct yourself appropriately and are a generally nice person to be around then you'll get people's respect. They'll have to square their professional respect and the fact that they enjoy your company with their knowledge that you're gay and their internal prejudices and discomfort. Eventually, you being a liked kinda erodes their prejudice and they realise that their views gradually change.
Kindness is indigestible I find!
I'm certainly going to be "out" at work... without being a screaming queen (which I'm not). I just want to be able to chit chat honestly about my life in the same way as a Captain will no doubt tell me about his wife in the future when I am crew.
I guess it sounds idealistic... but someone has to have a better vision in this world! That's how change occurs. If it costs me a promotion - I'd rather pay that price than lose my dignity by pretending I'm something I am not.
Anyway... at least I'll be popular with the cabin crew!!
Ultimately, we all eat, sleep, sh*t and shave like anyone else. I've never had a single problem and, before going freelance, I worked in a large VERY male-dominated British company. As you say trevord, the secrtet is to be 'normal', and not mince around like Graham Norton (nothing personal Graham, if you're a PPRuNer...).
Location: Now, in front of the PC, sometimes drinking Harveys, other times...driving a Bus
Sorry, I know it has nothing to do with aviation, but are there any university graduates in the forum (just to see if we have anything in commun), oh yes is there anybody from Corwall (just to see if they have the same experiences), oh yeh is there anybody that speaks Korean (well they may be the right contact when I am next looking for a job), or another one, any boxing enthusiasts that fly (just out of curiosity), come on!! Nothing against gay people. Each one to their one and I do work with lots of gay people. But why not ask if there are aviators from the next village or town. I have a better one. Go to a few gay clubs and start shuoting if there are any pilots about. What ever, but don't bull$hit. NOW, lets take cover!!!
Clearly there are going to be a number of silly posts/jibes made in this thread. (One has to wonder why these people feel such a pressing need to get involved in something that's apparantly nothing to do with them?!)
Anyway... I just wanted to say for the record that I don't propose to reply to any of them. I've said all I want to on the subject and feel I have made myself clear. I'm not going to lower myself to the school playground level some people seem to want to take this thread. My suggestion to you others who may feel you wish to defend/attack is you do similarly and DON'T BOTHER. It will clutter this thread which was a specific and focussed call to any other gay pilots to say hello.
So.... where are you guyz?
I've only had one sensible response from a guy who I'm talking to on email.....
I don't really understand the last post. But I'm always wary of people who feel they need to say things like "Nothing against gay people but ....." I think that the contacts forum is exactly the place to meet other pilots from cornwall or people who speak korean etc etc OR other pilots who are gay. What's the problem ? Some of us welcome more diversity and more debate. I don't think that flying clubs have always been the most welcoming places for gay pilots or women pilots or older pilots or disabled pilots - but it's changing and that's a good thing in my book. ps What's with the "Now let's take cover" at the end of the last post - I'm afraid you'll have to spell it out for me.