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Old 7th Aug 2010, 11:21   #1 (permalink)
 
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Mali Air Express, Timothy Martins?

I understand this guy is flying here, on the Saab 340? Anybody know him?
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Old 7th Aug 2010, 12:58   #2 (permalink)
 
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Why do you Ask

Why do you Ask?
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Old 7th Aug 2010, 15:15   #3 (permalink)
 
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Just wondering how he's getting on over there! He's a very gifted pilot (F-16's with New Jersey Air Guard, B737 for Southwest, and a Captain with American Eagle who had done new pilot recruitment and selections.

His union at Eagle, ALPA, did a whole article about him. Not sure if he has been equally spotlighted with SWAPA, the pilot union at Southwest.

Anyway, he's quite a guy!
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Old 8th Aug 2010, 14:36   #4 (permalink)


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Many professional pilots, particularly those interested in the preservation of the professionalism of the airline pilot and FFDO areas, are interested in knowing where this Timothy Martins is and what he is doing... If the allegations made about him in the Huffington Post story are true that clown should be doing time. In case the link above doesn't work I will paste the entire link below.

The agreement I acknowledged while signing up for this forum says no links to other aviation forums and no posting of copyrighted material. As I read it I am conforming to the rules. If any moderator disagrees please tell me how I can clean things up to do so.

Thanks,

Phil

Christine Negroni: Who Knows If Airline Pilot With Embellished Background Is Flying Armed?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christ..._b_529564.html
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Old 30th Sep 2010, 00:35   #5 (permalink)
 
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Phil,
I had the oppourtunity to meet and work with Tim at MAE. All I have to say to you and everybody else out there that is continuously bashing the poor guy, is that everybody makes mistakes. Even YOU. Nobody is perfect. I learned while speaking with him that all this stemmed from what was initially supposed to be a joke, outside of the airport and work environment, at a bar. Believe it or not, Tim is a great professional and a good person as well. From spending a little bit of time with him, I can see where some things he may have said blew up into what is all over the internet right now because he has a very friendly and joking type personality. However, if you dont know his personality, you may not know how to take him. In ALPA's defense, I can see how they are upset with the things that he said because it made the union look like a circus act. But the editor of the article should have maybe payed a little more attention to the details of the article and further looked into it before he published something about a 24y/o astronaut that is currently an FO at American Eagle to represent the union. The bottom line is that at some point in our lives we have ALL said something that we regretted afterwards, but life goes on. And to answer your question, No I don't know where he is flying now, and No he was not armed. And to answer everybody elses questions about Tim, No he is not an asshole, he is actually a good collegue and a fun guy to be around. Give the guy a break. I think he's learned his lesson. -DrCaptPhD
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Old 7th Nov 2010, 01:13   #6 (permalink)
 
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DrCaptPhD,
Are YOU Tim Martins?
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Old 7th Nov 2010, 08:18   #7 (permalink)
 
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HAHAHA.... Good question zondaracer..... NO!
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Old 8th Nov 2010, 15:23   #8 (permalink)
 
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haha, you never know with Tim the Milkman Martins, hes been on other forums claiming to be someone who knew him and trying to vouch for himself to cover up his trail.
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Old 19th Sep 2011, 06:05   #9 (permalink)


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DrCaptPhD,

Nice try, but you don't mug for a picture and do an interview for ALPA's magazine and not figure to have people look into your claims. He is a liar, not a jokester. If he was trying to get into some chick's pants at a bar I could figure him to exaggerate his accomplishments, but that is not what this is about. He lied about a number of things, he's an astronaut in his mind only and I believe he was terminated by Eagle for falsifying his employment application.

He may be manic depressive and he is most assuredly a liar; a good guy caught up in his lies - No way. Sure, we have all said things we wish we could take back, but this guy is the exact type of idiot that threatens things like the FFDO program, makes pilots look like buffoons when they should be respected and I personally think he should just suck it up and tell the truth. You know, go to the New York Times and give a 100% confession for publication.

Sorry, I'm not buying what you are selling. I do not know what your motivation is, but Martins is a liar and I encourage him to sue me for slander if he believes otherwise. I would enjoy having the chance to have legal counsel ask him some questions under oath. No, he is a liar and a loser and no amount of effort on your part will rehabilitate him. I wonder why "B737africa" asked why someone asked. If Martins is still trying to earn a living as a pilot, we need to make sure the harsh glare of the spotlight remains on him so everybody knows where he is, what he is doing, who he is doing it for and we limit his chances to further tarnish our profession.

Professionally,

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Old 22nd Sep 2011, 00:24   #10 (permalink)


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OK, I spent a few hours on a layover searching around on the web and believe as of 9/20/2011 I have the latest on Martins.

The most thorough discussion started on a military board (Baseops Forums "EPIC Thread - Fighter Pilot Poser exposed") where the posters outed Martins for not being a military pilot of any type, much less a fighter pilot as he had claimed.

As Martins became more infamous by the day posters found MySpace and Facebook pages for him, outed him for additional outlandish claims (In addition to all of his other bologna he claimed to be furloughed from SWA, a firefighter with New York City Ladder 2 and other things.). It all culminated in someone from Eagle saying he had resigned from Eagle, rather than being fired, on 4/19/2010. The likely theory is that Martins embellished his application for the job with Eagle and after making Eagle look bad they more thoroughly vetted his application and gave him a career decision day. Finally, another poster said he is now at Mali Air Express, which is part of the name of this particular thread.

Personally, I think Martins should have lost his ATP for not being of good moral character. I suspect he should lose his FAA medical for being manic depressive, if that or its treatment is a medically disqualifying condition.

Martins is a serial liar, he may be mentally ill too, but regardless of the reason(s) for his actions he attempted to claim credit for being lots of things that take a lot of effort to accomplish even one of. Using it as a line in a bar while trying to get into some chick's pants; I know plenty of guys that will try that kind of stuff. Using it in an ALPA article about ethics and hard work; he made it look like someone could do what he had done, when in all likelihood nobody could have done all the things he claimed. In the course of that he diminished the value of the effort of those that have accomplished some of the items he claimed.

If Martins is at Mali Express or anywhere else flying a plane; if his employer knows of his background and he even dings a plane the liability could be huge. Martins is demonstrably a liar on a large scale and that could translate into massive financial losses for anyone that employs him.

If anybody knows where Martins is or wishes to add any other detail to this post, I would welcome it.

Professionally,

Phil
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Old 29th Sep 2011, 12:32   #11 (permalink)
 
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Phil,
I respect your interest in preserving aviation and what little respect we as pilots still have as professionals in the industry. I also support those who attempt to arrange organizations and/or groups which can change unfavorable or intolerable subject matters in our industry for the better. However, I do not support a movement to arrange a 'cyber lynch mob' against a single individual who has neither an accident nor incident on his record and more importantly has never been involved in a situation which has directly put anybody in harms way. None of his actions has resulted in somebody being injured or killed due to an unforgivable error, negligence, or Lies.
The errors that you have so clearly pointed out to everybody of this 'certain individual' have affected nobody as severely as they have affected himself. Although Martins said some things that should not have gotten published in a public article representing the union, he obviously did not do it with premeditated ideas of deliberately attacking the reputation of ALPA, all the airline employees in which they represent and yourself.
It seems like you enjoy using the term "liar" quite frequently while expressing your personal feelings and opinions of Timothy Martins to the public. I assume that you are an FFDO, or involved in some branch of law enforcement (based upon your screen name), therefore representing our nation's safety, security, and justice system. I would have thought, that someone of your stature would have more respect for an individual who has not been proven guilty of anything illegal, before slandering his name with the utmost malitious words, and intentions of preventing him from sitting behind the controls of so much as a piper cub. Furthermore, in doing so, providing false information such as stating that American Eagle terminated Martins, labeling him as 'manic depressive', and accusing him of saying those things to help his chances of 'getting into some chick's pants'. How anyone tries to pick up ladies is their own personal business. I am no defense attorney, but in my own personal opinion, since none of the people on these forums were actually with Martins while he said the things that he said, and personally witnessed him making the alleged statements, in the context that you think he made them, they don't have the right to accuse him of being a liar or make a 'cyber diagnosis' of his current mental status, or ability to do his job. However, if I am wrong, and you were there, than please correct me.
Like I mentioned in a previous post, I have personally had the opportunity to spend time with Timothy Martins not only at work, but away from the airport as well and can say without question, that your personal opinions and accusations of Timothy's ability to perform his job safely and questionably of his mental status are nothing less than absurd. I agree with you that nobody should lie about their previous job experiences and especially government related entities such as our military. However again in my opinion, this whole story about Timothy Martins has gotten blown way out of proportion, and I think it's about time to give it a rest. I'm sure you have already achieved your goal in making it nearly impossible for Martins to find a job anywhere in the industry flying anything more complex than a kite, so maybe it's time to be the bigger man and give the guy a break.
Professionally,
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Old 5th Oct 2011, 08:14   #12 (permalink)
 
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...about Timothy Martins...

Fully agree with you..
I flew with Timothy at Mali Air Express, all I have to say about him is that he is a great professional,a good partner and he obviously has recognized his error.
We all commit errors in our lives and I strongly believe all aviation community must give Timothy another chance.
Hopefully is still doing well and flying.
Thanks.
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