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Old 31st Mar 2003, 22:45   #1 (permalink)
 
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Pilots - MOL

Itis amazing, how unknowingly many of you guys are bashing someone you actually do not know or not even have heard talking.

He, MOL, highly values pilots, saying that they rather want to be flying instead of hanging around on the ground (short turnaround), be at home every night (stable rostering), and well paid (look at the numbers on their web). And, he clearly said in an interview, pilots and their costs are not the problem, its how you sweat the assets. And with all respect to pilots, they make planes fly safe, but do not make them earn money (and shouldn't, to not compromise safety).

The problem is that most (mainline) airlines are indirectly run by the unions, and that does not work. Workrules are just ridiculous, impossible in most other industries. And, hey, United was employees-run, wasn't it?

And customers want to fly these airlines, the crap you get on the mainlines, like food?, is not worth the difference. Anybody who pays for his own flying, is not going to pay Euro 700 and more for BCN-LGW, when easyjet and the like are flying for Euro 100 (same airports, same airplanes, right?!).

And he is not bashing at pilots as such, he is challenging the airlines and their management, and, for sure, the unions.

(Just before you complain, I am a pilot, have an MBA, flown frequently on BA and easyJet since the early days, I am not related to neither FR nor MOL).
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Old 31st Mar 2003, 23:16   #2 (permalink)
 
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And your point is.................?
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Old 31st Mar 2003, 23:17   #3 (permalink)
 
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First off- this is in the wrong place. Please leave RP for items of News like what it says!
Second off- are we talking about the same MOL who robs off people by not refunding their taxes if they don't travel? Fraud?
Third off- 100 Euros BCN-LGW EJ? Try ALC-LGW EJ- I don't think so! Frequently NO cheaper than BA.
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Old 31st Mar 2003, 23:58   #4 (permalink)
 
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I prefer the odds of a 'mainline' carrier actually operating the service and on time. It doesn't matter how much you save if the flight is cancelled at the last minute.

...and he keeps slagging off ATC !



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Old 1st Apr 2003, 04:22   #5 (permalink)

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Not only have I heard him, I have had a "conversation" with him. He offered me my existing job, but on his contract. No thank you, I'm out of work, but I prefer it that way.
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Old 2nd Apr 2003, 00:59   #6 (permalink)
 
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And your shiny MBA should have let you work out that the Unions ARE the people...........
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Old 2nd Apr 2003, 14:24   #7 (permalink)
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Big Kahuna - No no no, the unions are the elected representatives of the people, and they can only claim to represent the views of the people when they act in a democratic manner i.e putting major decisions to the vote.
 
 
 
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