Thank you for your post, your reply looks a lot more constructive than mine! I was merely airing my views and sharing my experiences with potential oranges! At the end of the day, I am happy that I am flying but, as the airline industry recovers, much better jobs are becoming available and that is the reason several people are leaving EZY including myself. If you were working for a company and something better came along with a very stable rostering dept, more time off and the same money, would you take it?
P.S looks like you made a mistake in the spelling of you Login name! Or am I a liar? Bite me!!
Ryanair doesnīt seem all that bad comparing to what Iīm reading here. And remember no pilot of Ryanair has spoken so badly about itīs company on PPRuNe. Cheerīs PS. All command upgrades are within the company and not DEīs.
Well, despite all your negative feedback I've decided to join.
I'll give it 18 months, if I don't like it I'll pay off my bond with my extra earings and make room for someone else who'll have to be interviewed, assessed and trained.
Lets hope the senior management have realised by then that their people are their biggest asset and treat them such that they don't want to leave. That will save the recuiters and trainers a lot of time, money and effort.
As pilots were can only do enough to marginally improve the performance of an airline, but by god if the bosses upset us we are in a position to make a hell of a negative impact on the bottom line.
I can only echo the warnings posted earlier in this thread. Anybody thinking of joining easyJet should carefully consider the nature of the beast. The management are opressive, the rostering abysmal, and the pay about average. Do not believe them if they tell you otherwise.
And you must join BALPA. The company/BALPA relationship is poor and industrial action likely. Do you want to join a company where the pilots are on strike?
There is an aspect germane to this thread that doesn't seem to have had an airing. It's a lot easier groaning about terms and conditions when you are in gainful flying employment. Despite a shedload of experience on shorthaul jets, I've been unable to get an airline job since being laid off last March. I would willingly swap my predicament for any eJ terms and conditions, but I seem to be one of many lost in the black hole of the Orange application system - are you still accessing this forum, Cruella?
I have in the past suffered most of the slings and arrows that concern the unhappy posters here. In fact the only airline that did not have similar problems in terms of management and rostering was dear old Dan-Air ( alas, it didn't help them much). I won't argue that things couldn't be better in easyland but expecting the grass to be greener elsewhere in this curious industry of ours is, to my way of thinking a triumph of hope over experience.
happy New Year to all of you anyway and let's cheer up! when I see how things are for instance on this side of the Channel (France) look at air Lib' and so on it's not really bright! as someone else said let's give it a go and get a B737 rating at a rather (low cost) considering it's double the price in France it can't be too bad! see what the future holds!
you lot at easy have got it "easy". Every winter i have to sit on my ass doing one flight every 10 days , waiting for my average salary to be paid on time. I have to put up with management that vary on a scalefrom reasonable to nice, and as for the chief pilot he is an absolute effin' gentleman. So dont give me the sob story. To top it off every summer i have to spend lots of hours commanding a 30million pound jet around europe getting tired doing what has been a life long ambition. I cant stand it anymore, how can i fill my time?, oh and i forgot you cant imagine the hardship being single and working with lots of attractive girls. somebody help my life is a mess. and it is all somebody else fault. i really want to be a security guard at a moss side crack house.
Well I went for the recruitment days, got the job, and I can't wait to start. I'm absolutely ecstatic. Very nice people, very modern approach, I couldn't fail to be impressed. All the guys moaning didn't put me off as I reckon they are in every company (been in every co. I've worked in).
As far as I'm concerned the future's bright.................
Good for you and congrats on the job. I felt the same when I joined. I still enjoy my job and the people are great. All the negative posts on here and elsewhere on the net basically relate to one thing - rostering. It needs improving. Now I haven't suffered that badly but I know plently of people who have and the worrying thing is, management don't seem bothered. The only sticking point in the present negotiations (and I'm guessing here) is a scheduling agreement - the pay side of it is neither here nor there. 3 or 5% - what's the difference? Not much in real terms. However, a measure of control over changes to your roster, now that is worth having. I hope BALPA and the management can sort something out soon.
There is a lot of discontent in the ranks at the moment, ignore it and enjoy the course and the flying. You will soon be able to form your own opinion of the company.
Please do not try to tell me that "All the guys moaning didn't put me off as I reckon they are in every company (been in every co. I've worked in). " is what is really happening in easyJet. From a selection process you cannot possibly understand what is happening. The situation is not just "guys moaning", it is a fundamental problem with the way the company is managed. This is far more than what you may have encountered elsewhere. The situation is about to turn nasty.
By all means come to eJ, but do so with your eyes open rather than with the rose tinted specticles that you are currently wearing. The management say one thing, but the truth is far removed from what they would have you believe.