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Old 7th Oct 2017, 18:55   #1 (permalink)
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Ryanair direct contract EU conditions

Does anybody know the current offer for Ryanair DEC in the EU especially SXF?
What would be the yearly gross income?
What about health care and social security?
Where would you be taxed?
Are the training days during off days?
I would be very thankful for a quick response since I soon have to make a decision...
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Old 7th Oct 2017, 20:40   #2 (permalink)
 
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Why don't you call Ryanair and ask them?
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Old 7th Oct 2017, 20:57   #3 (permalink)
 
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lol awesome reply. We all know the reason
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Old 7th Oct 2017, 20:59   #4 (permalink)
 
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You might even get Michael on the phone....I'm sure he'd love to hear from you.
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Old 7th Oct 2017, 23:35   #5 (permalink)
 
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Salary = rubbish
Perks = non-existent
Tax = you can ask the tax men directly while they raid your house
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Old 8th Oct 2017, 06:22   #6 (permalink)
 
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Ask for a copy of the contract.

It must be on there.

Anyway if rumours are correct the money is going up by about 20% to keep people and encourage joiners.
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Old 8th Oct 2017, 07:05   #7 (permalink)
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I was hoping for some information during the weekend, so I can chew on the idea before the office opens...
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Old 8th Oct 2017, 07:15   #8 (permalink)
 
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If they are desparate for pilots, they'll wait for your decision
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Old 8th Oct 2017, 07:29   #9 (permalink)
 
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Blood Money!

Nighty, I don't think RYR give you anything other than a salary. Take a look at this site. They do RYR direct employment, and their site claims that captains are on around EUR120,000 pa. Sounds like blood money to me! Other than this I don't think there is much out there:

www.mcginleyaviation.com
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Old 8th Oct 2017, 07:37   #10 (permalink)
 
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What's the percentage of "Ryanair direct contract" pilots versus agency / self employed?
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Old 8th Oct 2017, 07:55   #11 (permalink)
 
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About 25% employees/ 75% contractors
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Old 8th Oct 2017, 09:08   #12 (permalink)
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The offer is a "Ryanair direct employment Contract with outstanding earnings potential"...
Even I am very sceptical about RYR, the Base and Rostering would suit my needs pretty well. So I thought maybe as a real employee life could be ok. That said, certain conditions (see above) have to fulfilled otherwise it is not worth the effort...
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Old 8th Oct 2017, 09:13   #13 (permalink)
 
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There is very little information in the public domain. The Ryanair web site gives no information about pay and Ppjn is pretty vague. 145€ per block hour for contractors is listed somewhere. But other than employees getting a small pension contribution and apparently no salary increments it is hard to compare numbers, which would actually be quite helpful in driving up pay in our own companies. Surely someone on here might lift the veil a little.
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Old 8th Oct 2017, 09:32   #14 (permalink)
 
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People are still considering joining Ryanair? There is no hope for this industry...
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Old 8th Oct 2017, 09:48   #15 (permalink)
 
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About 25% employees/ 75% contractors
60-40 increasing
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Old 8th Oct 2017, 09:50   #16 (permalink)
 
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Does anybody know the current offer for Ryanair DEC in the EU especially SXF?
What would be the yearly gross income?
What about health care and social security?
Where would you be taxed?
Are the training days during off days?
I would be very thankful for a quick response since I soon have to make a decision...
You better apply and speek to them directly, is the only way to get the truth, on this forum you might get some good answers but many are
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Old 8th Oct 2017, 09:57   #17 (permalink)
 
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Apply. And you will find out. Eventually. For none rated, the process is excruciatingly long.
Their recruitment dept don't give feed back at all after you apply. Zero, zip. Then expect you to turn up a week later for assessment.

You cannot contact them other than by the given email. No address. No tel no.
Arrogant. Self entitled lot. Total disdain for experience , and most on here know it.
But, work 4 the little 'Leary Leprechaun? No tks.Not now. Not ever.

Tells you a lot really. Do I need to go on?

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Old 8th Oct 2017, 10:03   #18 (permalink)
 
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The pay may look OK on the face of it but the conditions are crap hence the exodus. They're trying to throw money at it in their usual ham fisted way without understanding the problems.

Do let us know if the promises live up to reality.
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Old 8th Oct 2017, 10:24   #19 (permalink)
 
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60-40 increasing
They like to say that, but I'd be surprised. Some DECS and all new CU on Ryanair contracts but 800 cadets per year coming in on agency contracts, I'd be very surprised if the balance has shifted that far.

Disclaimer: none of us know for sure, but we know that contractors outnumber employees, potebtially by a long way
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Old 8th Oct 2017, 10:29   #20 (permalink)
 
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Ryanair have four hundred airplanes so there must be at lot of captains who could answer this rather simple question. Do you get fired if you tell someone or is there some other reason?
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