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Old 7th Jan 2017, 18:45   #121 (permalink)
 
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Bex88 I've been retired from BA almost as long as you've been alive, so all I can say to you as a very lucky 35year old with a command don't even consider unless you require a long period in your life that you will regret forever! My only grouse would be the removal of my staff travel which I valued more than anything! But all in all BA is a great company!

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Old 7th Jan 2017, 18:54   #122 (permalink)

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Part time...part time...part time!

Not a huge amount of options at my airline but I'd guess BA has quite a few choices that are more complex than the 50% or 75% available to me.

I'm 75% which is 5 on/5 off - find something else away from aviation, a new passion with all your new time, involve the wife and family. Something genuinely for yourself and your own satisfaction.

Then just go flying, as nothing more than something to do between your days off!
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Bex88

Think you may possibly have me wrong? I was merely highlighting the absurdity of some of the previous postings with a little satire (the ones where people felt the need to talk about income and acres!)

I, for one, sympathise with your dilemma and once shared similar circumstances; albeit I've never worked for BA. I had a flying job that literally owned me, one where I was spending a ridiculous amount of time away from my young family. 2 years ago I resigned, joining another operator as DEC at my home base. I haven't looked back and I'd advise you to do what you can to make your family and of course yourself happy. You only get one chance.

I wish you well. Good luck.

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Old 8th Jan 2017, 09:35   #124 (permalink)
 
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Lets face it, terms and conditions aren't going to get any better in the years to come.

I don't know how those in SH do it, I tried it 20 years ago for an early left seat but it knackered me, and that was doing 600 hours odd a year. Lasted 20 months before getting back in the right seat on LH. And before I'm shouted at, I know LH isn't for everyone and keeping a command for some is important.

A question... How do the guys and girls in Easy and such companies like having DEC's come in ahead of their commands? I can understand new rapidly expanding airlines like Norwegian but those that have been around a little longer???
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Old 8th Jan 2017, 10:43   #125 (permalink)
 
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It's been happening at EZY for a while now. Initially it ruffled a few feathers, then it transpired it still has little to no bearing on achieving command within 5 years (the quickest I've seen recently was just over 4).

Ironically I am reaching this point myself whilst swimming in the BA pool awaiting a start date. Being home every night is lovely but a few more summers like last year and something's going to give - it is NOT a stable lifestyle as some people have strangely suggested. Endless roster changes, minimum rest and max FDP duties sadly make it impossible to contemplate a career here.
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Old 8th Jan 2017, 11:13   #126 (permalink)
 
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Capt E. I would not think they are too bothered. As long as they have the right aptitude they can still get their command in 3/4 years.
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Old 8th Jan 2017, 11:30   #127 (permalink)
 
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Bex88 I've been retired from BA almost as long as you've been alive, so all I can say to you as a very lucky 35year old with a command don't even consider unless you require a long period in your life that you will regret forever!
With respect, having been retired as long as you have perhaps you don't have the most up to date information to be able to give someone such blanket advice. For example, you never had to deal with the bubble situation that Bex88 is caught in (which is of massive importance). Not to mention the raft of other changes in the meantime.

Bex88, I can only offer the same advice that has been given. Look at the options, gather as much information as you can (particularly recent first hand experiences), consider things like part time, moving, commuting. Try to be honest with yourself and then choose the best option for you and your family.

Good luck.

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Old 8th Jan 2017, 17:11   #128 (permalink)
 
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Blantoon, I'm very glad I wasn't the only person to think that about Pilotbac's post. Oh, for those halcyon days of almost 35 years ago; Tridents, Tristars, VC10s, cheese board, landing drinks, jumpers for goalposts, mmm, isn't it? I wonder how many current BA pilots will enjoy 35 years of retirement and/or the sort of pension that Pilotbac no doubt enjoys?

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Old 8th Jan 2017, 17:33   #129 (permalink)
 
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You beat me to it!!

Pilotbac i think you might find BA a bit different from 35 years ago, that's not to say it isn't still a good company as it is in many ways but for the OP his biggest regret might be not doing something about the affect BA is having on his family life!

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Old 8th Jan 2017, 21:59   #130 (permalink)
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Callsign kilo........sorry I took the bait 👍 Usually I would get the humour better.
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Just as you are a highly trained professional skilled in flying aircraft, there are highly trained professionals skilled in helping family's stay together.
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