Ryanair - Again - Pilot jobs site says 400+ working notice
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Ryanair - Again - Pilot jobs site says 400+ working notice
Just looking at my old lot Ryanair as keep an eye on where's a bolt hole should the **** ever hit the fan.
The pilot jobs network site says they have over 400+ working notice currently and that its a record amount.
I lived a few summers in FR with the rumours of parked planes due lack of crews but they always seemed to get them round the network. What's the story on the inside? I see there off to Dubai to try to bring some boys home. Are they going to finally get stuck or amble through another year?
I'd consider going back as a trainer if the money was upped and got my UK base of choice on a proper Ryanair contract but I see there still paying as little as possible. Plus I like my 2 sector days a bit much at the moment
The pilot jobs network site says they have over 400+ working notice currently and that its a record amount.
I lived a few summers in FR with the rumours of parked planes due lack of crews but they always seemed to get them round the network. What's the story on the inside? I see there off to Dubai to try to bring some boys home. Are they going to finally get stuck or amble through another year?
I'd consider going back as a trainer if the money was upped and got my UK base of choice on a proper Ryanair contract but I see there still paying as little as possible. Plus I like my 2 sector days a bit much at the moment
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No one from the inside here to tell the story?
I remember seeing a number of their 737s parked in Faro summer time. Air Contractors, Air Explore wet-leases. Maybe flights cancelled well in advance? They probably never flew as much as they wanted. It was well managed.
You gotta pay to play
I remember seeing a number of their 737s parked in Faro summer time. Air Contractors, Air Explore wet-leases. Maybe flights cancelled well in advance? They probably never flew as much as they wanted. It was well managed.
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Would be gobsmacked if true. Still recruiting at both STN and DUB every week and at roadshows so something weird going on if it was true.
Now back to these 2 sector days...........
Now back to these 2 sector days...........
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zero to hero, not meaning to nitpick on you or anything and sorry for my ignorance but:
what does "keep an eye on where's a bolt hole" and working notice mean?
what does "keep an eye on where's a bolt hole" and working notice mean?
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To answer your question it means keeping an eye on where I would apply next should my base close or company go under etc
Working notice means how many have walked in and said here's my 3 months notice. I'll be flying different colours shortly
To answer your question it means keeping an eye on where I would apply next should my base close or company go under etc
Working notice means how many have walked in and said here's my 3 months notice. I'll be flying different colours shortly
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Yea I wonder that.
BA & Thomson are the popular choices from people leaving my lot but outside that I would not know
Easy if you have the hours I guess. Sandpit looks a shower of sh€> now. China is a struggle to get in and then very lonely I hear.
Dunno. Must be going somewhere
The wonder is with +200 more aircraft on the way how will they possibly fill them and current. There going to need a lot more LTC's and TRE's and you can't grow them that fast in the sausage factory.
BA & Thomson are the popular choices from people leaving my lot but outside that I would not know
Easy if you have the hours I guess. Sandpit looks a shower of sh€> now. China is a struggle to get in and then very lonely I hear.
Dunno. Must be going somewhere
The wonder is with +200 more aircraft on the way how will they possibly fill them and current. There going to need a lot more LTC's and TRE's and you can't grow them that fast in the sausage factory.
The number makes sense. A LOT of experienced FOs off to BA. 75% of my BA entry course is ex Ryanair. Many also off to Thomson and fewer (mainly Brits stuck abroad) to Jet2.
Steady trickle to the sandpit, with Qatar now the destination of choice. Issues in both seats, the infrastructure in terms of sims is going in to ramp up, and they can just about cope with the aircraft they've got but not expansion. Monarch advertising for Bus/737 rated so I guess some will go there too.
For SFOs the command upgrade "experience" is still rotten in terms of basing and contracts. DECs getting permanent contracts and base of choice over their heads and the same being offered to leavers to try to get them to stay.
Steady trickle to the sandpit, with Qatar now the destination of choice. Issues in both seats, the infrastructure in terms of sims is going in to ramp up, and they can just about cope with the aircraft they've got but not expansion. Monarch advertising for Bus/737 rated so I guess some will go there too.
For SFOs the command upgrade "experience" is still rotten in terms of basing and contracts. DECs getting permanent contracts and base of choice over their heads and the same being offered to leavers to try to get them to stay.
Listening to Normal Pilot, it seems your experience is very much base dependent.
STN is unsurprisingly losing people left right and centre to BA, Thomson and occasionally EZY and are very short of crew with many requests for people to work days off. Smaller UK bases are finding things fairly easy as there is such a queue of people to move to them that any leaver is easily replaced by somebody on the continent looking to move back home so the effect would be less likely to be felt locally.
The northern UK bases I believe were less hit by BA as commuting seems to be less appealing. There are a lot of DEFOs from turboprop and commuter backgrounds who have been hired in expectation of being able to upgrade 12-18 months down the line to plug the command gap left by experienced FOs leaving.
I think they will probably just about muddle through as they have done in the past but another busy year ahead for those remaining.
STN is unsurprisingly losing people left right and centre to BA, Thomson and occasionally EZY and are very short of crew with many requests for people to work days off. Smaller UK bases are finding things fairly easy as there is such a queue of people to move to them that any leaver is easily replaced by somebody on the continent looking to move back home so the effect would be less likely to be felt locally.
The northern UK bases I believe were less hit by BA as commuting seems to be less appealing. There are a lot of DEFOs from turboprop and commuter backgrounds who have been hired in expectation of being able to upgrade 12-18 months down the line to plug the command gap left by experienced FOs leaving.
I think they will probably just about muddle through as they have done in the past but another busy year ahead for those remaining.
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Heard it all before.
FR have never had issues crewing planes when short because too many people want the day off money and the hours.
Years ago and I mean years ago most STN pilots stopped working days off and hey presto Company come back with better roster and more money. Up the workers I say.......
My God I am starting to sound French........
FR have never had issues crewing planes when short because too many people want the day off money and the hours.
Years ago and I mean years ago most STN pilots stopped working days off and hey presto Company come back with better roster and more money. Up the workers I say.......
My God I am starting to sound French........
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Don't think they would have a problem if they would take non TR FO's and bond you for the TR.
Who wants to fork out 29000euros and then still have to pay for everything. only young PTF.
Who wants to fork out 29000euros and then still have to pay for everything. only young PTF.
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Sorry to but in but I feel I have to add my 2p's worth.... I have never been rostered more than two sectors/day in 11 years at TOM. It's just not how we do it.
If they are losing crew then it's because the offering is crap. End of story.
If they are losing crew then it's because the offering is crap. End of story.