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Hi guys - let's turn this thread back into the right direction please.
I went through the contract, got my base(CIA). Some questions that came up whilst working through:
- it says they can move you to another base if they have the need to. How realistic is that with CIA? I mean, there should be enough flying all over the year(being located in the capital)?!
- brings me to my second question. The contract says the company may always opt to send me on unpaid leave in the winter season. Again - there should be enough flying out of CIA?
- This italian tax "thing" on domestic sectors. It means I should pay tax to italy INSTEAD of to Ireland if doing domestic sectors, right? How does that affect my salary? Better/worse then paying that in Ireland? Or was this already all considered when receiving some numbers from some of you(thanks again for that)?
I went through the base agreement and seem to understand it. Is there really ever a different roster over summer(as mentioned in the agreement) or is it just there "in case"?
All the rest is more or less as expexted for joining RYR, no big surprises. The "rough guide to RYR" is actually kind of funny as long as it does not hit you....
- brings up another question - how is it if you are really sick? e.g. getting influenza or having some other serious issue? Big problems or they accept a sick certificate with any big issues(considering you do not call sick every second, third month).
- Travel while on duty - e.g. if I go to the TR. Do I need to pay my luggage or not? Did not get that really from the fact sheet...
As usually feel free to drop me a confidential PM if you do not like to see some insights posted in public.
Thank you gents!
I went through the contract, got my base(CIA). Some questions that came up whilst working through:
- it says they can move you to another base if they have the need to. How realistic is that with CIA? I mean, there should be enough flying all over the year(being located in the capital)?!
- brings me to my second question. The contract says the company may always opt to send me on unpaid leave in the winter season. Again - there should be enough flying out of CIA?
- This italian tax "thing" on domestic sectors. It means I should pay tax to italy INSTEAD of to Ireland if doing domestic sectors, right? How does that affect my salary? Better/worse then paying that in Ireland? Or was this already all considered when receiving some numbers from some of you(thanks again for that)?
I went through the base agreement and seem to understand it. Is there really ever a different roster over summer(as mentioned in the agreement) or is it just there "in case"?
All the rest is more or less as expexted for joining RYR, no big surprises. The "rough guide to RYR" is actually kind of funny as long as it does not hit you....
- brings up another question - how is it if you are really sick? e.g. getting influenza or having some other serious issue? Big problems or they accept a sick certificate with any big issues(considering you do not call sick every second, third month).
- Travel while on duty - e.g. if I go to the TR. Do I need to pay my luggage or not? Did not get that really from the fact sheet...
As usually feel free to drop me a confidential PM if you do not like to see some insights posted in public.
Thank you gents!
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1. It's highly unlikely they would move you to another base unless CIA downsizes or closes.
2. There will almost certainly be enough flying to mean forced unpaid leave is unnecessary. Usually they ask for volunteers for unpaid leave but it is very rarely forced on anyone.
3. I think you are right that sector pay on Italian domestic sectors is taxed in Italy rather than Ireland. My understanding (but stand to be corrected) is that this results in lower overall tax and therefore more money in your pocket. This was indeed calculated in the figures I originally gave. Expect an average of €6000 to €6500 per month across 12 months.
4. I've only ever known 5/4 even in the summer. Very occasionally they alter it but in 10 years at Ryanair I've never had mine altered over the summer period.
5. Sickness is fine. Ryanair say if you are sick for 1 or 2 days you don't need a doctor's certificate. If sick for 3 or more days you require some form of medical documentation but they do not insist on it if it's difficult for you to obtain. Overall, from my experience, the company these days is reasonable over sickness and accepts it happens. If you have an excessively high number of days then you are likely to be interviewed but initially in a relatively friendly manner.
6. For the type rating and any company travel (ie 'jumpseating' even though most of the time you can just take a passenger seat), you can take luggage and give it to the dispatcher and put it in the hold free of charge. They say one item of luggage for the hold is the maximum but in 99.99% of cases I am pretty sure you could put more in the hold if necessary.
Hope this helps. Good luck and enjoy yourself. It's a far better job and company than people on Pprune make out. Not perfect by any means but actually provides reliable, decent enough income, enjoyable flying and a stable roster.
2. There will almost certainly be enough flying to mean forced unpaid leave is unnecessary. Usually they ask for volunteers for unpaid leave but it is very rarely forced on anyone.
3. I think you are right that sector pay on Italian domestic sectors is taxed in Italy rather than Ireland. My understanding (but stand to be corrected) is that this results in lower overall tax and therefore more money in your pocket. This was indeed calculated in the figures I originally gave. Expect an average of €6000 to €6500 per month across 12 months.
4. I've only ever known 5/4 even in the summer. Very occasionally they alter it but in 10 years at Ryanair I've never had mine altered over the summer period.
5. Sickness is fine. Ryanair say if you are sick for 1 or 2 days you don't need a doctor's certificate. If sick for 3 or more days you require some form of medical documentation but they do not insist on it if it's difficult for you to obtain. Overall, from my experience, the company these days is reasonable over sickness and accepts it happens. If you have an excessively high number of days then you are likely to be interviewed but initially in a relatively friendly manner.
6. For the type rating and any company travel (ie 'jumpseating' even though most of the time you can just take a passenger seat), you can take luggage and give it to the dispatcher and put it in the hold free of charge. They say one item of luggage for the hold is the maximum but in 99.99% of cases I am pretty sure you could put more in the hold if necessary.
Hope this helps. Good luck and enjoy yourself. It's a far better job and company than people on Pprune make out. Not perfect by any means but actually provides reliable, decent enough income, enjoyable flying and a stable roster.
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Thank you skyflyer737 for that positive information!
Thanks as well to all gentlemen that forwarded me valuable information per PM, very appreciated.
I see that the general attitude is a positive, however realistic one. I like that and I am very certain I will fit into that environment.
Thanks as well to all gentlemen that forwarded me valuable information per PM, very appreciated.
I see that the general attitude is a positive, however realistic one. I like that and I am very certain I will fit into that environment.
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Hate to be the party pooper, but having been on the receiving end of their treatment for a few years I have to say I am a bit cynical whenever their name pops up. The fate of Alghero and Pescara is not looking too good.
Ryanair says to cut Italian routes, jobs, blames government passenger tax | Reuters
Bremen and Hahn have been up for base reductions lately.
Oslo-Rygge's future is uncertain:
Ryanair could close Oslo Rygge base this winter - ch-aviation.com
Just another reason to organize as a pilot group, don't trust their goodwill.
Ryanair says to cut Italian routes, jobs, blames government passenger tax | Reuters
Bremen and Hahn have been up for base reductions lately.
Oslo-Rygge's future is uncertain:
Ryanair could close Oslo Rygge base this winter - ch-aviation.com
Just another reason to organize as a pilot group, don't trust their goodwill.
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No worries, I am pretty realistic(do this job far to long now, unfortunately) about T's & C's. Look into the ME threads, they are a real "eye opener".
That's why I asked for this base, it seems big enough not to be shrinked down too soon. After all it's the captial. Pescara was one of my secondary options, glad I did not went for it.
Well, another journey, let's see where this one goes ;-)
That's why I asked for this base, it seems big enough not to be shrinked down too soon. After all it's the captial. Pescara was one of my secondary options, glad I did not went for it.
Well, another journey, let's see where this one goes ;-)
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Hi guys!
I didn't want to start a new thread about Ryanair so I will just post it in this thread.
Does anyone know the currect situation with regards to type rating and training? I heard that there have been delays for people waiting to start type rating and then on line training because Ryanair didn't have enough facilities and training captains to train all the cadets?
Any news on that, has it got better recently?
Thanks for info!
I didn't want to start a new thread about Ryanair so I will just post it in this thread.
Does anyone know the currect situation with regards to type rating and training? I heard that there have been delays for people waiting to start type rating and then on line training because Ryanair didn't have enough facilities and training captains to train all the cadets?
Any news on that, has it got better recently?
Thanks for info!
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@Kudlaty
I am just starting with RYR. But it seems they still have it organized. Already got asked during interview if I could make a particular date in terms of typerating. Then, the contract says the same(start date which is the first day of TR). In case they delay it means they will have to pay me basic salary till I start finally.
So I guess they are very keen to make me work for my money ;-)
I am just starting with RYR. But it seems they still have it organized. Already got asked during interview if I could make a particular date in terms of typerating. Then, the contract says the same(start date which is the first day of TR). In case they delay it means they will have to pay me basic salary till I start finally.
So I guess they are very keen to make me work for my money ;-)
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My advice would be tell them what base you want and take the permanent contract if you are successful. I'm just a line Captain so I'm not involved in the process but I have been told by some newer colleagues that the interview and sim is very straight forward with no tricks.
I know for a fact the assessors are a great bunch and very friendly. They are looking for very good CRM and TEM. Remember the cockpit gradient is quite low in Ryanair so speak up and put your point across whichever seat you are sitting in. Most importantly safe and sound decision making and competent manual handling is the key. They are not trying to catch you out.
Good luck.
I know for a fact the assessors are a great bunch and very friendly. They are looking for very good CRM and TEM. Remember the cockpit gradient is quite low in Ryanair so speak up and put your point across whichever seat you are sitting in. Most importantly safe and sound decision making and competent manual handling is the key. They are not trying to catch you out.
Good luck.
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Just had an assessment at Stansted which after what I thought was a good interview and sim ride was emailed the following day and told NOT SUCCESSFUL. 3 of us, I was the only one with jet time and type rating and command experience
Anyway we were told there are no UK /Irish bases available, all full and with waiting lists, any other bases outside of UK you will pretty much get.
Anyway we were told there are no UK /Irish bases available, all full and with waiting lists, any other bases outside of UK you will pretty much get.
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Sorry to hear that italian stallion(lol that Nick).
3 of us as well on my interview, all very experienced jet(medium, me as well heavy) Captains. One typerated, the other 2(including me) NTR.
Unfortunately we did not exchange contact details, so I do not know how the other 2 guys did. The rated guy, which played PNF/PF for both of us NTR on our sim sessions made a very good impression to me as well. Curious how it went for him.
They normally reply very fast, got positive answer within 2 or 3 days, do not remember anymore excatly.
Maybe give it another shot in a few months?
3 of us as well on my interview, all very experienced jet(medium, me as well heavy) Captains. One typerated, the other 2(including me) NTR.
Unfortunately we did not exchange contact details, so I do not know how the other 2 guys did. The rated guy, which played PNF/PF for both of us NTR on our sim sessions made a very good impression to me as well. Curious how it went for him.
They normally reply very fast, got positive answer within 2 or 3 days, do not remember anymore excatly.
Maybe give it another shot in a few months?
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@italian stallion
Thank you for information (Stansted). Actually, would be kind and tell me did you have technical question exam (ATPL) and HR exercise ?
I guess that sim-ride was assessed at B737 sim. Please tell me (I have not got experience- NTR), what kind of skill for NTR pilots they are looking ? (advice please)
I'm interested for eastern Europe bases, for example Romenia, Bulgaria, Croatia etc.
Thank you for information (Stansted). Actually, would be kind and tell me did you have technical question exam (ATPL) and HR exercise ?
I guess that sim-ride was assessed at B737 sim. Please tell me (I have not got experience- NTR), what kind of skill for NTR pilots they are looking ? (advice please)
I'm interested for eastern Europe bases, for example Romenia, Bulgaria, Croatia etc.
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What are the chances of NYO base these days, last time I checked they told me it wasn't possible.