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Old 22nd Dec 2015, 09:06
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Fastest Comands

Hello.
I am B737-800 F/O and I am searching airlines which have a fast comand program. I have around 6000hours, and right now the airline I am flying with is not on its best moment. So what companies around the world you think an European pilot could work and get a comand in around a year?
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Originally Posted by BCN
Hello.
I am B737-800 F/O and I am searching airlines which have a fast comand program. I have around 6000hours, and right now the airline I am flying with is not on its best moment. So what companies around the world you think an European pilot could work and get a comand in around a year?
BA. However, maybe not with a B737-800 rating.
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Old 22nd Dec 2015, 09:20
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Definitely you should have a look at Sunexpress then; they need a lot of Captains and will look to upgrade you very quickly with those hours.
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Old 22nd Dec 2015, 09:26
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Try Ryanair, they are expanding on your aircraft type...

Captains and First Officers B737NG Type Rated positions
Due to the addition of new aircraft to the Ryanair fleet over the coming 5 years we are currently recruiting for a limited number of Direct Entry Rated and First Officer positions. There are a number of contract options available; we are seeking Captains and First Officers for direct employment with Ryanair, contract positions and employee positions with other agencies.

What’s on offer?
  • Outstanding Earnings Potential (including guaranteed min. hours for contractors)
  • The best roster in the business; stable 5 on 4 off pattern
  • No planned overnights and rosters published 4 weeks in advance
  • Unrivalled career progression – new aircraft and bases create opportunities for promotion to Captain, LTC, TRE, Base Captain, etc.
  • Job security – permanent and contract positions available in one of the most successful airlines in the world.
  • New modern fleet – our fleet consists entirely of next generation Boeing 737-800s with an average age of five years.
  • Great base opportunities available at many bases across the network.
As you do not have command time yet, expect a year or so RHS, 2 LCK's essentially, before being able to go through upgrade.
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Chocolate Racer, its not the 1st of April yet!
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Old 22nd Dec 2015, 10:40
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It is most certainly is not April 1st, the most junior pilot now holding a valid bid for an A320 command at BA has been in company less than a year, strange times.
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Old 22nd Dec 2015, 10:55
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AIS airlines of the Netherlands use low hour Captains.
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Old 22nd Dec 2015, 11:54
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a couple of airlines in Turkey are hiring FO directly on the Left seat...

I got friends that did that back in September.

I also heard Wizz air are starting to do the same.
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Old 22nd Dec 2015, 13:00
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Not in Wizz Air, at least for the moment.

Min 500 hours in the company are still required.
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Old 22nd Dec 2015, 13:13
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I know of someone who joined British Airways non-rated on the A320 last year, having been a Dash 8 captain with FlyBe. He applied to be a captain at LGW and got it - he will take around 18 month from joining to being a captain. You will look long and hard to beat that I would think.
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Old 22nd Dec 2015, 13:36
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If you have the required command hours you might get a command quickly in BA next year, however BCN makes no mention of having the required command hours for such a fast-track route to command.

My prediction for what it is worth, is that with lots of very junior pilots joining the bottom of the captains' list this year, the position will be considerably more attractive for the more senior FOs next year. This year's occurence is unlikley to be repeated as a result.
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Arewerunning Really? which airlines.. I know for a FACT THY and SXS would not do this as, PGS requires command hours, that leaves ONUR,Correnden,BoraJet and Altlas. Prey tell
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Old 22nd Dec 2015, 18:16
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"MY CONTROLS"

ok ill get my coat….
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Old 22nd Dec 2015, 18:37
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If you join Ryanair as a direct entry rated FO it will take around 18 months before you could commence Command Upgrade training. You would be required to attain the required grades in your initial OCC sim training and then two recurrent sims. Accompanying this you would have three line checks (3 months apart) before you would go on the annual line check system. You would also have to complete one full winter season. After each simulator and line check the trainer would fill in a command upgrade assessment that is attached to your file. After all those boxes are ticked you will do coaching and assessment flights from the RHS and upon successful completion you will do a command interview with the training department. Once all of that is complete you would be eligible to commence a course when there is a requirement.

As I said plan for 18 months minimum.
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Old 22nd Dec 2015, 19:09
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Originally Posted by GS-Alpha
My prediction for what it is worth, is that with lots of very junior pilots joining the bottom of the captains' list this year, the position will be considerably more attractive for the more senior FOs next year. This year's occurence is unlikley to be repeated as a result.
Could be true. That said LC said that for 2016 the "junior nature" of the SH commands in 2015 won't be repeated for 2016.....
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Old 22nd Dec 2015, 19:21
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.......and, in most companies, including mine, you need to be able to spell 'command' to achieve a command.
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Old 23rd Dec 2015, 13:13
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really? do you have some kind of pre-command spelling bee competition?
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Old 23rd Dec 2015, 14:46
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RAF, you'll be in the LHS after 3 years as an FO and 1000hrs total
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You British? If so look at AirTanker Svcs Ltd.
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Old 27th Dec 2015, 12:56
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Pegasus advertising for Senior FOs for upgrade "within a year". It's on their website.

Crazy with BA commands running at 18 months! I know quite a few BA long haul FOs who have been in BA for 7-10 years. I never discussed it with them but I guess they are holding out for LH commands then?

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