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Old 11th Oct 2014, 10:12
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Volotea

Hey,

I'd like to have some info regarding this nice little company operating the B717.
They are currently recruiting cadets, FOs and Capt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-nJveX6ppQ
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Old 11th Oct 2014, 10:48
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great!
can anyone tell me the price to get in ?

thanks
PS: i don't care about salary, I just want to fly...

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Perhaps good for enhancing your own flying skills as you gain experience, but the 717 is a useless type rating. No doubt Volotea is an interesting niche airline but an absolute bottom feeder for pay, etc. I think even Vueling pay better and at least you get an A320 type rating out of it if you going to go that route. The race to the bottom continues!
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Don't know about salary but the B717 is a fantastic aircraft, jet and fully glass cockpit. Is the Dash8 better type rating? Is the A300 any better? What about the Fokker 100 or CRJ?
Anyways, if you want to join Emirates, do you think having an A320 or B737 rating will be better? Of course not.
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well I know some ex Ba cityflyers and ex Cityjet flying for Emirates and Qatar with no Airbus/Boeing hours, but anyways, the B717 is a Boeing aircraft, probably more modern than a B737-300/400.
Training at Emirates is simple: just learn by heart your SOPs and learn how to engage and disengage your Autopilot passing 100 feet AAL.
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The Boeing 717 was designed by McDonnell Douglas as the MD95. It became a Boeing after the two manufacturers merged.
They only built 156 of them, and stopped building them about 2006.

So basically .. it's not a Boeing, and it looks like a B717 rating would be of limited value.
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Old 11th Oct 2014, 23:51
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VOLOTEA

...age discrimination anyone?!? "Funny" restrictions for an European airline,to advertise it openly like that...
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Emirates shorten the 777 training for 717 rated pilots.
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I think this guy with a moustache on the video above was the head of training manager at Vueling.
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How is the recruiting process?
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Old 13th Oct 2014, 16:39
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Guys with B737 hours are likely to go to B777 with EK, airbus guys tend to go to A330/340/380. Just a matter of reducing the risk of failure during the training.
Rubbish. Few months back, I had lunch in Doha with a former student of mine who had spent the last 4 years on a small Nintendojet in Asia and went straight to a B777 TR with QA. How about that? Stop speculating on "which type", it is likely to drag you into the P2F/SSTR dungeon!
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It is not about type, it is about how much you can pay.
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Old 14th Oct 2014, 12:17
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And how much are they charging for this 'job'?
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that's what I asked since the begining but no one dares to say it I guess.
Actually, this is THE question.
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26000€ for the TR, and 900-1000€/monthly pay
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Old 15th Oct 2014, 08:20
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I've had answers in private msg.

Expect:

800 hours a year
Cadet 1500 euros a month
Senior FO 3000 euros a month
Capt 6000 euros a month

Type rating half paid by the company the rest is deducted from initial salary during 2 years.
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Old 15th Oct 2014, 15:38
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Is that after tax?!?!

Even so
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Grrr

Cadet works out at under £14,500 per year! That is just above the UK Minimum Wage and then you have to pay half your training costs back over 2 years!

Do they supply a tent to live in as well!

And to think 20-30 years ago, being a commercial pilot was a highly revered profession!

Good luck ATRISGREAT.
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Old 16th Oct 2014, 09:25
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The race to the bottom, led by bright eyed 20 years olds who just can't wait to fly a shiny jet, continues.
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The race to the bottom, led by bright eyed 20 years olds who just can't wait to fly a shiny jet, continues.
Fortunately they have mummy daddy.

goodluck in this industry. In 5 years or so, it will be worse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPSlj-OGjFI
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