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Old 9th Jan 2017, 16:29   #3441 (permalink)
 
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Definitely slowed down a lot this year though. I'm 320 rated and have been told to expect to hear nothing until late 2017/early 2018.
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... Maybe anyone can shed some light on the recent intake of sim candidates. Still hopeful on a phone call sooner than later, seeing as my sim buddy is starting in 3 weeks (though he is rated 320...) Fingers crossed!
Chaps/chapettes,
Just for context around where I might sit in the scheme of things, when did you do your sim assessments? Saab0409, did you come through the long haul recruitment campaign this time last year, or through the short haul that started mid-year last year?

FACoff - when/from whom did you hear that? I've literally had nothing official since the congratulations email, and have only gleaned from others that start dates for rated swimmers might be around July.

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Old 9th Jan 2017, 18:56   #3442 (permalink)
 
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I belly flopped into the pool just before Christmas. Since then, despite asking BA recruitment where I stand, no idea when or if I'll get the call. All they would say is "we've met our recruitment requirements for 2017 with cadets and DEP rated. If you haven't been called in 12 months, we'll give you another 6 months. If nothing after that, we'll discuss your options". Not the most confidence inspiring!

For record, Bus rated, applied on the initial non rated recruitment in 2015, put on hold for a few months as I (at that time) didn't meet the criteria for LH. Sim check was December 2016.
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Old 9th Jan 2017, 19:49   #3443 (permalink)
 
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Latest internal rumour is some form of recruitment to restart - whether that is assessments for those already going through the system, FPP or new additions I don't know.

The source for this is one of the recruitment guys I met in the sim not too long ago.
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Old 10th Jan 2017, 00:02   #3444 (permalink)
 
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Chaps/chapettes,
FACoff - when/from whom did you hear that? I've literally had nothing official since the congratulations email, and have only gleaned from others that start dates for rated swimmers might be around July.
I was told late 2017 from recruitment directly (unless there was a "considerable change" in their intake plan). A chap not far behind me said he'd been told early 2018. That said I've only been in the pool since mid November, so even for the 320 I'd expect to be well down the list.

Frankly though if BA's recruitment department bears even the slightest similarity to that of my current airline then their requirements will change more than my Mrs before a night out. Fingers crossed it's sooner rather than later.
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Old 16th Jan 2017, 18:45   #3445 (permalink)
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Everyone else in the pool get the email this evening? Pretty gutted truth be told.
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Old 16th Jan 2017, 19:28   #3446 (permalink)
 
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Yep, got it as well. Went from master caution to master warning light. My end of hold pool, even with the 18 month extension, only barely reaches October. Seeing as I did my sim early last year... So fingers are definitely crossed.
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Old 16th Jan 2017, 19:40   #3447 (permalink)
 
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Me too. Hoping it's just sort of confirmation of the last email but with more clarity. Anyone else looking to go elsewhere. Think I will have to dust off the cv and start applying just in case. Hope they know about 2018 within the next 6 months.
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Old 16th Jan 2017, 20:37   #3448 (permalink)
 
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just out of interest guys what did the email say regarding BA's recruitment plans?
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Old 16th Jan 2017, 21:03   #3449 (permalink)
 
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I feel for you guys

It all sounds quite familiar. I was in the pool in 2011 and it was extended from 12 to 18 months after the bmi takeover was announced. The goal posts moved considerably during that time as PP34 replaced PP24 and seniority numbers changed massively after the bmi guys were TUPE'd in (their first round of FPP cadets also entered the list around this time too). Me & around 70 others sank however, unexpectedly and in complete contrast to forecast coming from BA, recruitment re-opened a little over a year later. Those who were in the pool had to go through selection again and quite a few are now flying for BA! I moved on elsewhere and I believe I'm better for it.

I hope it works out for everyone. I know how you feel, however BA isn't the be all and end all; as much as it may seem to be at the present time.

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Old 17th Jan 2017, 11:06   #3450 (permalink)
 
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Expiry

Does anyone know if you need to have started with them before hold pool expiry, or simply received an offer/contract?
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Old 17th Jan 2017, 11:24   #3451 (permalink)
 
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Offer of a course date
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Old 17th Jan 2017, 13:17   #3452 (permalink)
 
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I have deleted my post @RexBanner , I was just looking for advise on non rated guys using a320 sim they might recommend.

I have moved to a more appropriate thread.
My apologies.

Regards,

SAR
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Old 17th Jan 2017, 13:34   #3453 (permalink)
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Got the email too. I'm not really that worried, then again I expire in March 2018. To be honest, I'd be shocked if people ahead of me sink in the pool, just for the sake of a couple extra months. The email confirmed what I thought based on their last one- no jobs really until 2018. I do find it funny though that the FPP cadets will join to the 320 no problem this year. People with zero hours who'll get the same T&C's as myself (I could be mistaken) and others on joining, are of more 'value' to the company than someone bringing thousands of hours of experience.

However, having taken 3 attempts to jump into the pool, I'd rather be in it, than having to think about a 4th go at it
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Old 17th Jan 2017, 15:40   #3454 (permalink)
 
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The FPPs are on a reduced salary, starting on about 30k I think. BA have also invested a lot in them, so it makes sense that they would want to get them flying as soon as there is a need.
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Old 17th Jan 2017, 16:03   #3455 (permalink)
 
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Could anybody please clarify what the EMail stated?
Are you NonRated and for how long have you been in the pool?
I did not receive any mail so far.

Thanks a lot for your help
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Old 17th Jan 2017, 18:50   #3456 (permalink)
 
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The FPPs are on a reduced salary, starting on about 30k I think. BA have also invested a lot in them, so it makes sense that they would want to get them flying as soon as there is a need.
EMB 145 How much would be again the DEP salary at the bottom?
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Old 17th Jan 2017, 23:31   #3457 (permalink)
 
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EMB 145 How much would be again the DEP salary at the bottom?
At the moment I think it's just over 55k.
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Old 18th Jan 2017, 07:27   #3458 (permalink)
 
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I do find it funny though that the FPP cadets will join to the 320 no problem this year. People with zero hours who'll get the same T&C's as myself (I could be mistaken) and others on joining, are of more 'value' to the company than someone bringing thousands of hours of experience.
I'm afraid if you think previous experience counts for much in your early days in BA you are going to be sadly disappointed, you're seen as just another mouth to feed/number on a list by management once you hit the line. OTOH there's no doubt experience might help down the road if you can get to the interview stage for something such as training (but see my final para). As others have pointed out BA have already invested in the FPPs.

(FWIW back in the day I joined BA as an X,000 hour "trainer" and even 3-4 years later didn't even have the seniority to get an interview for a training position on the fleet I was on....seniority in company really is everything.)

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Old 18th Jan 2017, 13:55   #3459 (permalink)
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Not sure my comment was interpreted correctly. I was obviously mistaken and that FPP's T&C's are less than those of DEP's. My point was had that not been the case, it would be strange if BA preferred a cadet...That's be confirmed by EMB that that isn't the case.

Won't stop me using my experience that 'doesn't count for much'- when actually on the line with BA.
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Old 18th Jan 2017, 18:10   #3460 (permalink)
 
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Am i right in saying that 2018 is busier for recuitment due to deliveries of A350's, some neos and 787's? And i guess the 18 months in the pool cannot be extended?
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