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Hello
I would like to open a debate on how are airlines strict for their min requirements?
For example if an airline requires 1000 TT and 500 on type would they hire someone with just 800 TT as long as he has the 500 on type
I would like to open a debate on how are airlines strict for their min requirements?
For example if an airline requires 1000 TT and 500 on type would they hire someone with just 800 TT as long as he has the 500 on type
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Minimum requirements doesn't always mean that you can't get the job, far from it!
I got a job with 250hours, when the requirement was 1500 TT with 500 jet.
Later got another job with 1700 hours where the requirement was 2000.
I never knew anybody, I simply applied.
Heard similar stories. For example EK will accept an application with less hours, as long as you have the hours before joining.
But quite often a computer will filter your application out if you don't have the hours.
So don't expect anything, but it's not impossible.
Good luck
I got a job with 250hours, when the requirement was 1500 TT with 500 jet.
Later got another job with 1700 hours where the requirement was 2000.
I never knew anybody, I simply applied.
Heard similar stories. For example EK will accept an application with less hours, as long as you have the hours before joining.
But quite often a computer will filter your application out if you don't have the hours.
So don't expect anything, but it's not impossible.
Good luck
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What are you basing that statemant on?
Airline Part A Manuals state minimum company qualification requirements to be commanders. If you don't meet the requirements you cannot be the commander.
Fact.
At least it is in the airlines I have worked for.
Especially for Captains, these "requirements" mean absolutely nothing at the moment.
Calling is the message.
Calling is the message.
Airline Part A Manuals state minimum company qualification requirements to be commanders. If you don't meet the requirements you cannot be the commander.
Fact.
At least it is in the airlines I have worked for.
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Far More Than Hours!
Total hours and type/turbine hours a Guidelines for the initial screening folks. Sure, a computer may knock you out of the first round, but human usually sees all application eventually. If one is a few hours short of some threshold, but all you the applicant's time is directly relevant to what the company really wants, they will look closer. Other considerations can also make a huge consideration. Some may include WHO you worked for or in what ENVIRONMENT you flew. Most 'real' airlines want a 4-year degree. You'll get a closer look if you have an AE degree than say one in Music History. In short, the pilots that they really want, have personal assets and experience extending well beyond total hours. If you have additional qualifications, but damn sure that you describe them in full! Check Airman? Training Pilot? Even a non-flying skill that demonstrates a history of Critical Decision Making, perhaps under pressure, are at least as important as is total time.
Lots if pilot applicants have the minimum hours requested. What sets YOU apart from the masses? If you have any of those assets, make them known. If the company values those things, your application will get that all-important second look. In other words, Sell Yourself! And good luck.
Lots if pilot applicants have the minimum hours requested. What sets YOU apart from the masses? If you have any of those assets, make them known. If the company values those things, your application will get that all-important second look. In other words, Sell Yourself! And good luck.
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Early in my career I applied for a job that stipulated 2,000 hrs and I had close 1,000, but all on a type they operated. It was a white lie to get through the initial online screening. At the same time I still had to upload my cv which stated my exact hours (screened by a human). I did it on the advise of a senior training captain I had flown with.
I was called for a 2 day selection and the first thing they did as standard was to check logbooks and licenses... It was never questioned until the stage of job offer (and even then they just requested that I had hours required by company manuals when joining which was still 500 less than those stated in the job advert). They happened to be real short of rated, current, experienced and available guys that year.
Sometime later the airline became more desirable and they increased the hours required to 4,000 min to apply. Guys from my previous crowd now couldn't get a foot in, who as it happened went bust quite soon after.
So yes, it does happen. I took a calculated risk that paid off, but I certainly wouldn't try it with the bigger operators. You will be leaving the recruitment centre in short order and will probably loose your one chance with them.
I was called for a 2 day selection and the first thing they did as standard was to check logbooks and licenses... It was never questioned until the stage of job offer (and even then they just requested that I had hours required by company manuals when joining which was still 500 less than those stated in the job advert). They happened to be real short of rated, current, experienced and available guys that year.
Sometime later the airline became more desirable and they increased the hours required to 4,000 min to apply. Guys from my previous crowd now couldn't get a foot in, who as it happened went bust quite soon after.
So yes, it does happen. I took a calculated risk that paid off, but I certainly wouldn't try it with the bigger operators. You will be leaving the recruitment centre in short order and will probably loose your one chance with them.
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An airline once paid an extra insurance premium to take me as a DEC so please be careful what you state as fact. Not that long ago either!
It was ever thus.
It was ever thus.
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Airline Part A Manuals state minimum company qualification requirements to be commanders. If you don't meet the requirements you cannot be the commander.
Fact.
Fact.
There are quite some occasions when even DECs are hired below the required minimum. Dosent happen very often and usually there is a reason for it.
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Some companies are very flexible, few years ago my previous employer was short of crew, so short that they were forced to cancel some flights. They hired guys way below the requirements. But when they have enough crew they will stick to the Min requirements. I ve known many guys with around 2000hrs got jobs that required 3000+ hrs. Exemptions can always be made, it all depends on time. Never be afraid to apply if you are below the mins, you never know!!
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EAM, Silverhawk,
I did caveat that Part A min qualifications are lines in the sand in the airlines that I have worked for.
A candidate very recently slipped through screening and completed the type rating as DEC. The error was spotted at base training and said candidate is now RHS.
Fact.
Without wishing to drift off thread there are ethical and legislative implications in accepting a candidate who does not meet the requirements whilst spurning another who does. I guess that's why us simple pilots have HR experts acting as gatekeepers.
I have heard stories of candidates on application forms stating that they do not have a type rating on B777, A340 etc to get it through the computer screening stage. Good luck to all those in the hunt for a seat on a flightdeck.
I did caveat that Part A min qualifications are lines in the sand in the airlines that I have worked for.
A candidate very recently slipped through screening and completed the type rating as DEC. The error was spotted at base training and said candidate is now RHS.
Fact.
Without wishing to drift off thread there are ethical and legislative implications in accepting a candidate who does not meet the requirements whilst spurning another who does. I guess that's why us simple pilots have HR experts acting as gatekeepers.
I have heard stories of candidates on application forms stating that they do not have a type rating on B777, A340 etc to get it through the computer screening stage. Good luck to all those in the hunt for a seat on a flightdeck.
I applied for an advertised job where I didn't have all the requirements, I was short of the rating not the hours. I heard nothing for a while during which time the job was again advertised.
Shortly after that I was invited in for an interview, got the job, stayed seven years and moved on to better things as a result of a lead I got from a Captain I met there.
Shortly after that I was invited in for an interview, got the job, stayed seven years and moved on to better things as a result of a lead I got from a Captain I met there.
