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Old 29th Jan 2013, 09:49   #1 (permalink)


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Non type rated 737NG Low hour first officers

Has anyone got any more information on this opportunity?

It seems too good to be true, do jobs like this actually exist anymore?

The agency don't have a history of pilot recruitment and won't disclose any informations on it and which airline?

I think it's a scam and they just want details of pilots or maybe will be asking for money later down the line! Oh please pay us for a sim check, which then gets cancelled!
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Old 29th Jan 2013, 13:02   #2 (permalink)
 
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Whats the old saying ? " if it sounds too good to be true. . .it probably is"

Well, no harm in applying & pursuing the "opportunity" until the 60,000$ question arrives. . . . let us know.
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Old 29th Jan 2013, 13:17   #3 (permalink)
 
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By " low Hours" I assume they mean relatively, as they ask for an ATPL and glass cockpit, s either 1500hrs under the old system or at least 500 multi pilot multi crew.. or am I missing something?
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Old 29th Jan 2013, 13:26   #4 (permalink)
 
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Could it possibly be Thomson? They're a charter airline that operates 737s and I'm pretty sure they have a link to Canada...

But it does sound as if it could be too good to be true.
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Old 29th Jan 2013, 13:32   #5 (permalink)
 
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What's a third officer??
Not like there's a cruise pilot on 737's.
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Old 29th Jan 2013, 13:48   #6 (permalink)
 
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A title invented to pay less than normal First Officer pay I would imagine. Other companies use Second Officer , or Junior First Officer.

Bottom line is that if you are checked out & operating in the RHS you are "First Officer" & if I pop my clogs, promoted to Captain. . . end of.
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Old 29th Jan 2013, 14:18   #7 (permalink)
 
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I don't know what airline it is but one thing is certain,by advertising it even more you have more and more chances to remain...Unemployed,unemployedFO apply to it,it wont hurt,then ask questions,now you've got yourself more competition,dogs eats dog....

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Old 29th Jan 2013, 17:49   #8 (permalink)
 
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Last week these guys were touting the same job (by the sounds of it) for a salary of up to 45k (First Officers) so I guess the difference between 1st & 3rd Officers is about 10k
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Old 30th Jan 2013, 05:06   #9 (permalink)
 
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UnemployedFO,

I'm going to assume you are an unemployed FO who is desperately looking for their first big break.

If so, then you are a complete fool.

If my assumption is not correct then I do apologise.
A bit uncalled for. We've all been new pilots looking for their first break. Sometimes you get your hopes up when you see what looks like the promised land. A few years in the industry gives you the experience to know that if it looks that good it is definitely a scam.

Good luck Unemployed FO I fully sympathise with your position and hope that some fortune comes your way eventually.
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Old 30th Jan 2013, 08:40   #10 (permalink)
 
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The 45k position is, allegedly, for a Type Rated FO. After speaking with the recruitment firm concerned they told me summer is spent in 1 of a few UK bases, and winter is spent in Canada. Sadly though, they were unable to tell me the name of their client.
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Old 30th Jan 2013, 10:01   #11 (permalink)
 
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Definetely sounds to me like Thomson.


real kick in the balls to the guys in the hold pool.......
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Old 30th Jan 2013, 11:07   #12 (permalink)
 
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Not like there's a cruise pilot on 737's
Some operators use a 737 three man crew on long duty sectors in the Pacific region. One real captain and two first officers of which one gets called Cruise captain to keep him happy. Wears 4 bars on his sector while the captain snoozes down the back and three bars when PNF. The union makes sure he gets paid an extra 15 grand a year. Not a bad rort if you can get away with it...
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Old 30th Jan 2013, 18:13   #13 (permalink)
 
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the airline is thomson,

i spoke to someone i know today that works for c&m recruitment and they told me that thomson came to them for 12 pilots, for which interviews have already been arranged.

the agency is continuing to advertise the vacancy to increase their CV database of pilots to effectively make it seem like they are a big agency and to get details of wannabe/low hour pilots
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Old 30th Jan 2013, 18:18   #14 (permalink)
 
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Skyhigh86

It's not Thomson.

I've also spoken with the recruitment company. Sounds like an interesting opportunity.
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Old 30th Jan 2013, 18:38   #15 (permalink)
 
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Which other charter airline operates in the UK and Canada?
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Old 30th Jan 2013, 18:46   #16 (permalink)
 
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You could make it even simpler MH!

How many leading UK charter airlines operate the NG?

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Old 30th Jan 2013, 20:22   #17 (permalink)
 
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So one person confirming it is thomson and another confirming its not thomson.....


I personally think it has to be.

Big kick in the nads for us hold poolers who initially all applied and interviewed for a full time position at Thomson last year.
Only to be told we had passed but could only be offered a temp position. A few months down the line and it would appear the job we applied for is being advertised once again albeit with some time spent in canada. Something that i would personally love to do.

Oh well, maybe Thomson isnt the shinier than shiny airline we all thought it was.
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Old 30th Jan 2013, 21:01   #18 (permalink)
 
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UnemployedFO. Your not very savvy are you.....jeez
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Old 30th Jan 2013, 22:40   #19 (permalink)
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Well that's a helpful post... not, jeez to you too, you idiot

UnemployedFO, ignore the bellends on here and good luck son.

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Old 31st Jan 2013, 05:59   #20 (permalink)
 
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It's not Thomson.

Just for what it's worth tcx operate on Canada as well but it's not them.
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