eggc1vy3

Are any of you actually qualified to state whether an airline is stable or not?

Just looking at share prices is not going to give a picture of how stable the company is.

Do any of you have any business or investing experience.

I would say financially Jet2 is very stable.

It owns most of its aircraft, turns a profit every year, never made any flight crew redundant, is still expanding now when others are not and contrary to what allot of you are saying Investers Chronicle is recommending to buy Dart Group shares and has been for a long time.

I have to sit for many hours a day with people like you lot that think you know everything about how an airline is run!

A and C

I can't think that anyone who knows the history of Channel express air services or Jet 2 as it I'd known to the public would put them in the unsafe catorgry, the post by Stopstart on this subject being particularly accurate.

Also I dont think that anyone could call Norwegian Air Shuttle unsafe financially.

I can't help thinking that there is a lot of wishfull thinking from some posting above.

jumbojet

But look how confusing the picture is. Thomas Cook Belgium should be in the "Safe" department & JetAirFly (Belgium) could be printing money!!! but both are let down by the owning groups (TCX &TUI) which clearly need to be in the "un-safe" section.

no sponsor

Jet2 never made flight crew redundant? Yeah good one....

fireflybob

If you believe what Harry Dent says then probably hardly anything is safe:-

RedBullGaveMeWings

And what about Alitalia?

Artie Fufkin

Go on then, do tell when (excluding pilots who refused to accept a transfer away from a based that was to close)

No RYR for me

I liked the question but seeing the answers I realise this thread is like asking my 2 year old to rate the flyability of all commercial aircraft available today. The answers really crack me up!

Next thing we know we will see on the PARUNE network (Professional Account Rumours Network) a discussion on who makes the safest derated take off's!

The SSK

And how many of those three have ever made a profit?

Just asking.

Tubbs

Loganair - fifty years in the game and in profit for the last decade. Lots of non-discretionary travellers and successfully operating in a niche.

1000ft Cruiser

All outbound Emirates flights are topping up with fuel bought in UAE, the stuff is probably cheaper than water. They've got a great route structure with a modern and efficient fleet. They wont be making a loss any time soon.

Dave Clarke Fife

Quote:
AIMINGHIGH123: The big 3 Middle East carries the safest by a mile.
And how many of those three have ever made a profit?

Just asking.


Well this lot for a start.............






Etihad records first ever full-year profit - FT.com

AIMINGHIGH123

The SSK, I never said anything about profit just that they are very safe. Well Emitrates we all know about, they help bring a lot of revenue in for Dubai and Qatar is pretty similar, would people go there out of choice? As for Etihad well they had a lot of start up capital they might not like to admit it but come on like the other 2 they could get help a lot easier than our poor european carriers.

CargoOne

Well, if fuel is cheap in UAE then for Emirates & Etihad only. For everybody else the fuel price there is quite up to the world market, with consideration for less costs on transport and volume.

If you look at Emirates annual accounts, they claim fuel is around 34% within the cost structure, which is about right percentage for any European or US airline. Now the question is whether you really believe Emirates reports?

Mr Good Cat

NOT TRUE about the fuel I'm afraid.

As a 777 skipper the only flights I can remember tankering on are Tehran and Cairo, which are usually tankering-limited anyway on the old 777-200 non-ER due to residual centre tank fuel with max ZFWs.

Not sure where you got that info from.

VeroFlyer

Pan American Airlines....definitely safe!

The truth is is any one safe? Just because an airline is the biggest, has been around the longest, makes the most money etc. doesn't make it bullet proof. Maybe on paper, but it only takes a major incident or world event to turn the tide.
Aviation history is littered with names of airlines who in their heyday where probably thought to survive the toughest of climates.

Food for thought, an interesting discussion though!