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Ryanair - Employment Agencies Regulations Opt out?

Old 9th Jan 2013, 12:33
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Old 9th Jan 2013, 19:51
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Agency Workers Regulations

Why would you want to opt out? I often wonder how people manage to get an ATPL when I read some of these questions. Agency workers regulations are there to protect employees. AND to stop the likes of Ryanair from exploiting people.
If only half the pilots there were aware of it.
There'd be no need for a union. Any problems from your employer and you'd have the government fighting your corner.
Pilots need to educate themselves! It's not that difficult really. But for those of you who cannot be bothered to do any research then briefly, anyone employed by a company to do the same job for more than 12 weeks (YES TWELVE WEEKS) is entitled to most benifits that a full time emplyee is. ie sick pay/ holiday pay / they cant just sack people for no reason either. This was set up to put a stop to the likes of Ryanair from exploiting their workers by making them contractors and having them believe they have no rights. THEY DO! Why do you think Ryanair wants you to opt out of it. Arseholes. They can't anyway. You are by default protected by this bit of government legislation, no matter what stupid piece of paper those pikey dictators get you to sign.
 
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The problem with the whole situation is RYR contracts bogus contractors, in their eyes. They might treat them like employees, but they call them contractors. They now insist they are LTD's. Thus they have built a wall between RYR and the pilot. The only way this can be broken down; think Berlin 1989, is for a massive group to make a legal claim of employment and break this wide open. If the odd individual stands up and makes a claim for their 'rights' they will find their services are no longer required. Sad but true.
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Old 9th Jan 2013, 20:59
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And that's exactly what they want you to believe.
The actual truth is that individually you are alot more powerful than you think.
Any problems with ryanair and you contact this government agency.
Thay will come along to a meeting with you and discuss politely the options.
If Ryanair still refuse to play by the law then they'll be taken to court, not by you, but by the GOVERNMENT!
There is a government agency out there right now who specialise in this. It's their job. That's what they do! Capice.
Ryanair must be laughing. Scratching their heads wondering how the hell they've got away with it for so long!
 
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RAT5, well said!!

Finally someone else has pointed out that disguised employment is illegal and that by default all of the Ryanair contractors could claim permanent employee status and put an end to this nonsense.

I would get some legal advice or have a chat with HMRC and just explain that you're being forced into a state of disguised employment.
Yes... it really is that simple and it has been done before.

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Old 23rd Feb 2017, 16:48
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So, after a couple of years: What is the situation with opt-in and opt-out decisions after this time? I found only a few information but it doesn’t make the decision easier now a days.
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