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No, not a(nother) female pilot although her future earnings appear to be rather good!
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Figures from October 2011 show that a direct entry captain for Flybe can earn up to £82,000 compared to £81,509 with Easyjet and £65,000 with Emirates.
I was obviously on the wrong contract, I mean after 8 years as a Flybe captain my basic was a lot less than £65k plus a paltry amount of duty pay. I know they had a pay rise again this year but still nowhere near £82k.
Seen this last night. I don't understand why the hell this was even approved by Flybe!! The Daily Mail?!!! Come on. I don't really get it and it contains the usual Daily Mail misinformation. I think its a poor piece. This type of thing is best left to the local newspaper. Not a personal attack on Kate and best of luck to her. But I don't think its the best of articles promoting Flybe..
Good on her I say, it's a bloody tough industry to get into these days, and the industry needs keen young people. A quick look back at my year 1 EK pay packet, and not including the bonus, equates to a total of just over 105k GBP. This sum is based on what I would have to earn back in blighty to get the same cash in hand as I do here in the sandpit.
don't understand why the hell this was even approved by Flybe!!..
Possibly because of the, ahem, quoted salary appearing to be one of the best in the world. But then I'm always cynical when it comes to Flybe these days.
Interesting to note that her love for aviation and her ambition to be a pilot came about from being allowed up front for a landing. Not much chance of that (at least in the UK and USA) these days. Those were the good days of aviation. My kids did quite a number of take-offs and landings in the front office of airliners. Those days passengers thought how lovely it was of the pilots. Now it would be a letter to the Sun or Daily Mail resulting in horror headlines and the sack for the crew. How times have changed (for the worst)!
I can say for sure that the Flybe salary is complete rubbish.
It's just more spin from Exeter and French. I've heard from the horses mouth that there is no real reliability issues with the Dash compared to the jet, salaries and conditions are better than Easyjet- now compared to Emirates! No one works too hard, so I guess we will ignore all the rosters that show over 100 flying hours in a month!! A 5 on 2 off constant roster is not fatiguing! And so the list goes on......... Guess that's why a French justifies his larger than Walshes salary, while the staff suffer from some of the worst conditions in European aviation!!!
You will find that this article originated in a local paper before the mail got hold of it, and figures inserted by their reporter. As Kate works for Flybe, I would imagine she is fully aware of their salary scale and not expecting some of the figures that appear on here.
1) Jet capt year 1, sorry, year 0, is approx £66,966 with say £3k duty pay 2) but, they would never take DEC on jet, always dash, which is considerably less: £60,565 (+ the same duty pay) 3) but saying that, with the number of SFO's, they would never even take DEC on the dash nowadays 4) you're looking at at least 5 years for command as well (onto the dash might i add)
Youngest female pilot? Not sure about that. At least the article mentioned the accumulated training debt - the public need to know about the sacrifices wannabe pilots make and then have to live with in the future - especially on wages that get smaller and smaller....
Gosh, those comments at the bottom of the page are very telling of the publics extreme ignorance of aviation and prejudice against women. Its staggering to read.
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...She's a co-pilot.. otherwise she would be in the left seat...the pilots seat....
...Why has she only got two rings on here arms, two rings is a senior cabin crew insignia...
...normally a First Officer has three rings on the arms, not two. Four as captain, three as second officer, two as senior cabin crew and one as junior cabin crew. 25 years in the airline busines I have never seen this before....
....These planes fly themselves. The pilot just has to be there in case something goes wrong. They can take off and land by themselves like drones. They can also adjust their course automatically in order to avoid other aircraft detected by their radar...
Not sure what your made up virtual salary has to do with this argument. 'What you would have to earn to be paid the same in the UK' has no real bearing when comparing tax free to taxed economies. When you consider your tax free status your probably underpaid. After all if it was truly tax free your salary would be 622000AED To compare with a salary of GBP 105000which it's not.
Last edited by silverknapper; 5th May 2012 at 23:19.
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