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Old 30th Oct 2010, 12:45
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Pasty, unless things have changed a lot, as far as I am aware you'll be paid from your join date. For now, flybe are still a proper company. I'm not sure about flight duty allowance for groundschool or initial sim etc, that might have changed to some kind of per diem. Good luck.
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Old 30th Oct 2010, 13:19
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If you think you'll start on anything near £30k think again, you'll start on Year 1 F/O salary which is about £25k
If you think you'll get an Exeter base any time soon think again, you'll be swimming in the pool for a fair while. Exeter is losing a Dash for the winter, and is not regaining it for the summer, this leaves them at least 33% over crewed.
If you haven't got any command time in your 3,000hrs on the Dash then forget a DEC, infact, forget a DEC anyway. I can't see many, if any TREs leaving as Otto alludes to. Even if we did lose a few can you really see current Dash captains turning down full jet salary and not accepting the job? I can't. Also the training dept. is slightly over crewed. All the ex bacon TRI/Es were made to do the job because they were getting paid the money after the "merger". Anyway, the talk of TRI/Es leaving is irrelevant, if they do leave then you won't be hiring DECs to take on those roles unless they have TRI/E on their licenses.
GusHoneyBun's last paragraph sums it up very nicely.

You get paid salary from day 1, expenses are paid during any (initial) training, can't remember about the FDP during training.

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p.s. I'm not sure the 300 has any Q400 "oddities", more like the Q400 has 300 oddities, because good ol' Mr Bombardier decided it was a clever idea to make it a common type
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Old 30th Oct 2010, 13:32
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Rumour around the network, all command upgrades have been suspended, some folk who have completed there command ground school have been told to jump back in the right hand seat!
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Old 30th Oct 2010, 13:36
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Air Pasty

If youre planning on leaving a command in ASW to join here as an FO, then take my advice - dont do it!!

You'll wait a fair while for an EXT base to start with just as an FO.
You'll wait years and years for a command here....theres one plane down in EXT and a queue of SFOs waiting for commands here aswell as the captains who left EXT to get a command and are now waiting to get back.
DECs are a none starter for years to come.
Q400&300 arent massively different other a few odd things and perf!

I did the same and, whilst i dont regret it, it might not be such a great move nowadays!

The biggest benefit you will get if you did do it is job security. Pay wise, i started on £30k with a 1 yr bond but i doubt you could haggle for that now. I dont earn much less than ASW capts with my fdp.

One thing i will say is - life is ALOT stricter and harder in Flybe than it is in ASW!

Good luck anyway.....both have got great crew to work with!
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Old 30th Oct 2010, 13:39
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There's now 2 Dash 8s in EXT, they had 3 in the summer but have now lost one permanently
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Old 30th Oct 2010, 14:37
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Air Pasty,

Ignore Deano777, he is a grumpy bugger sometimes.

I Joined the company a couple of years a go. 2 FO's on my TR course (same date of joining) started on pay scale year 2, which is £29677. I understand they jumped to that scale as they had X amount of hours on an aircraft type over X amount of Kg MTOW. So not every new joiner starts on year 1 pay point.

In support of Deano777, I do find it very hard to believe there are seats to fill at EXT!!! There are quite a few FO's around the network that I know of that want to relocate to EXT. However as always us pilots are never aware of the big picture, who knows what they have planned!

As regards to FDP while training. If I remember correctly you don't get any. However the company will pay £15 per a day for your dinner which you claim back. Flybe do start paying 100% of your basic salary from day 1 though.

I will not get involved with the silly argument about how easy / hard the Q400 is to fly. I like it and thats that! Hope this helps?

Regards to my friend Deano777

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Old 30th Oct 2010, 15:04
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Deano,

Correct.....it was badly written on my behalf! Ut should have read - EXT is one plane down!

It was only last yr there was 4 q400 here! Never mind!!

Exeter Till I Die!!!
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Old 30th Oct 2010, 15:15
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Hmm...something doesn't add up here? We're coming into winter, by all accounts a quieter period, company reducing aircraft allocation to certain bases (e.g EXT) and yet they're about to recruit? Where are all these vacancies coming from...I didn't think the exodus had happened (yet).

I assume (and hope) if this is true that they are about to empty out their hold pools....I've become an olympic swimmer since my interview and sim check ages ago
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Old 30th Oct 2010, 15:19
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Me? Grumpy?
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Old 1st Nov 2010, 17:19
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I'd be very disappointed if that's all they're up to next year.
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Old 1st Nov 2010, 17:27
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Don't get too excited, they run these courses annually.
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Old 3rd Nov 2010, 09:55
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Back to recruitment....

Managed a little update over the last week from the guys in that area. As is well publicised at the moment, the MPL guys are edging closer to line flying.

Another batch of new entrants to the company have started, 5 or so, they have come from one of the many hold pools of newly qualified... I do not know how many are still swimming.

Unfortunatly, some very recent command upgrades have been put on hold. Probably a combination of some uncertainty over the winter program, or just generic rethinking. A shame for those guys, but I'm sure they'll be rescheduled in the very near future.

Gaps on the 195 have opened up as FO's realised commands on the Dash this summer, these are being back filled by Q4 FO's, and thus the gaps at the very bottom.

Flybe are very pragmatic, and do realise we will loose a lot of crews as the bigger boys continue recruiting, recent loses have been to the sandpit etc... Expect to see reasonable movement from the various hold pools in the new year.
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Old 17th May 2011, 15:45
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Flybe Recruitment?

I heard a few days ago that lots of people are leaving Flybe for bigger and better things. HR Says no recruitment until the end of the year but maybe before. Some say the holding pool is full and some say nearly empty...

Really want to fly for them so can anyone shed some light on whats really going on please?
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Old 17th May 2011, 18:32
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My guess is about 70% of the pilot workforce are utterly desperate to leave, but no real meaningful doors open right now for people masses of Q400 hours, either seat. The only guys getting jobs right now are those with jet hours, but with the number resigning seemingly on the up, will hopefully in time give other escapees the currency they need to get out, and obviously make space on the Q400 fleet.

Bear in mind though relations between the pilots and management are currently in the gutter, there are anecdotal threats of redundancies and hull disposals. We don't yet know if there is substance to this or if it would be retribution for everyone standing up and saying they've had enough of being treated with contempt for years. Judging by your name though you may well be one of the tiny number of people for whom Flybe might be a step up. Best of luck.
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Old 17th May 2011, 22:18
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So far I know of a dozen that have left to Gulfair, at least one to Lingus, one to Jet2, one to a 747 operator.

Anyone have any other info?

There will certainly be no redundancies thats just speculation/evil rumour.
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Old 17th May 2011, 22:25
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I had been told that they would be opening up the online application again and recruiting by the end of the month (I was told this in March), still no sign of this happening. Its so frustrating because I would jump at the chance to work for Flybe.
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Old 18th May 2011, 13:05
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you and "airpasty" sound like managenment .................."would love to work for flybe " this is getting pathetic !!!!
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Old 18th May 2011, 14:02
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I would suggest that until the dust settles on the 'pay and scheduling' talks with ACAS, the company won't know how much is in the coffers. Consequently they wont know how many new pilots they can afford (if any,) and likewise with any shiny new hairyplanes.

With a confirmed order of 35 Embraers to be delivered ca 4-5 a year, I doubt we'll see all of those airframes as there doesn't seem to be much in the way of any plan yet as far as I can see.

Like the man said, doom and gloom................

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Old 18th May 2011, 17:47
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Things may change in the not-too-distant future. This week's Flight International has a recruitment advert for non-rated pilots at Fly Dubai. Plenty of Flybe pilots in both seats meeting the minimum requirements for FOs at least.
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Old 18th May 2011, 17:57
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I don't think its pathetic, I have been looking for an airline job for a while now whilst struggling to build my hours in a job which only gives me a few per month. I know many people within flybe, most love the job and don't want to leave, that is why I would jump at the chance to work for Flybe!!! By the way I am not management and have no affiliation with Flybe whatsoever, I am mearly expressing an opinion seconded by many out there looking for their first break in to the airline world.
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